The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2483  Monday, 29 October 2001

[1]     From:   W. L. Godshalk <
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        Date:   Sunday, 28 Oct 2001 17:34:53 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.2466 Re: Sir Toby et TN

[2]     From:   Anthony Haigh <
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        Date:   Sunday, 28 Oct 2001 17:52:29 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.2466 Re: Sir Toby et TN


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From:           W. L. Godshalk <
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Date:           Sunday, 28 Oct 2001 17:34:53 -0500
Subject: 12.2466 Re: Sir Toby et TN
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.2466 Re: Sir Toby et TN

>(The correct parallel to "Twelve Noon" is of course "Twelve
>Midnight", and has always been.)

asserts Tom Bishop in parenthesis.  But let me remind Tom that Jonson
uses the phrase "the noon of night" in Sejanus.  It is also used by
Herrick in Hesperides.  Drayton, Man in the Moon, uses the phrase
"Nighted Noone." You can check these in the OED sb. 4, 4b. So I suppose
"twelve of night" is possible, and might be abbreviated (by Gabriel's
metaphor-wielding poet) as "twelve night."  Unfortunately, I cannot find
an example.

Yours, Bill Godshalk

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From:           Anthony Haigh <
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Date:           Sunday, 28 Oct 2001 17:52:29 -0500
Subject: 12.2466 Re: Sir Toby et TN
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.2466 Re: Sir Toby et TN

My apologies to John Velz.  I took his - "Note that such a rendering of
the name puts "Feste" in a class with "Speed" in TGV." - to have
something to do with the French train of the same name.  The conjunction
of "class," "speed," and "TGV" was irresistible.  I was confused - but
for a joyful moment.  It has been a long weekend...

Cheers,
Tony Haigh
Centre College

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