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Re: Reviews, etc. of O
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2105  Wednesday, 5 September 2001

[1]     From:   Louis Swilley <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 4 Sep 2001 14:29:45 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.2095 Reviews, etc. of O

[2]     From:   Mike Jensen <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 04 Sep 2001 14:38:21 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.2095 Reviews, etc. of O

[3]     From:   Richard Burt <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 4 Sep 2001 21:14:44 -0400
        Subj:   Stiles' color in O


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From:           Louis Swilley <
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Date:           Tuesday, 4 Sep 2001 14:29:45 -0500
Subject: 12.2095 Reviews, etc. of O
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.2095 Reviews, etc. of O

Hugh Davis asks,
" Does stripping the
 language destroy the intent?"

           Well, let's see:

            To exist or the contrary -
             That's what I query.

    Or, maybe,

             Why doesn't my really substantial carcass
              Just turn into goo...?

    Or, how about,

                I'll croak and be quiet now.

         L. Swilley

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From:           Mike Jensen <
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Date:           Tuesday, 04 Sep 2001 14:38:21 -0700
Subject: 12.2095 Reviews, etc. of O
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.2095 Reviews, etc. of O

I think that Hugh Davis raises THE interesting question when he asks,

>How close does a text have to be
>to the original to qualify as a "true" version?  Does stripping the
>language destroy the intent?

No one seems to be considering the real crux of this issue, to judge
from most comments on-list for the past couple of years, at least since
the NBC *Tempest* was first shown.  To condemn a film for not using
Shakespeare's dialogue and setting is to condemn it for the very thing
Shakespeare nearly always did: Adapt his source and inform it with his
own sensibility.  (I grant you, Shakespeare didn't mess with setting to
a great extent.)  Such criticisms strike me as, by definition,
wrongheaded.  Rightheaded is to judge how well a film works in its own
terms, not as an adaptation of Shakespeare.  *Throne of Blood* is, I
think, bloody brilliant.  *Ran* amazes me in the best way.  *10 Things I
Hate About You* and *The Tempest* are not different in kind, only in
quality.  I have not seen *O* yet, so I do not comment on it.

My theses: If Shakespeare can use a source and transform it, then it is
fair to use Shakespeare's work as a source and transform it.  You begin
to evaluate from there, not earlier.

Problem for a film-maker: you'd better be very good, or very clever, to
withstand the inevitable comparisons.

Mike Jensen

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From:           Richard Burt <
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Date:           Tuesday, 4 Sep 2001 21:14:44 -0400
Subject:        Stiles' color in O

Has anyone noticed that hte poste for O makes Julia Stiles look dark
skinned?

http://us.imdb.com/ImageView?u=http%3A//posters.imdb.com/Covers/18/47/91.jpg

http://www.othemovie.com/core/index1.html

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