2001

Re: "Happy Birthday, Shakespeare"

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.1777  Tuesday, 17 July 2001

From:           Kelley Costigan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Sunday, 15 Jul 2001 08:21:25 +0100
Subject: 12.1738 Movie-For-Television: "Happy Birthday,
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1738 Movie-For-Television: "Happy Birthday,
Shakespeare"

Happy Birthday Shakespeare isn't really academically challenging (if
that is what you'd like to know).  It is the story of a man who has a
dream to own a B&B in Shakespeare's hometown and how he gets there
(through a series of romantic entanglements - his wife, a mistress).
There is a 'Birthday Procession' but it does not come close at all to
what actually occurs on the day.  Watch it if you must, but purely for
entertainment value, not scholastic or academic interest.

Kelley Costigan
Blood & Thunder Theatre Company

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Re: The Tragedy of Claudius

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.1776  Tuesday, 17 July 2001

[1]     From:   Brian Haylett <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 14 Jul 2001 16:00:15 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.1739 The Tragedy of Claudius

[2]     From:   Sophie Masson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Sunday, 15 Jul 2001 22:44:16 +1000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.1755 Re: The Tragedy of Claudius

[3]     From:   Harry Teplitz <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Monday, 16 Jul 2001 15:00:30 -0400 (EDT)
        Subj:   Claudius and Cressida


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From:           Brian Haylett <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 14 Jul 2001 16:00:15 +0100
Subject: 12.1739 The Tragedy of Claudius
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1739 The Tragedy of Claudius

>Brian Haylett has a point.
>
>Only the play he is talking about is Macbeth...which is the 'tragedy' of
>Claudius.
>
>Cheers,
>John Drakakis

Oh, come! Macbeth may be a good general, in a rather violent way, but he
is a bad king. His affection is limited to one person, and perhaps lost
to her by Act Three. He is not goaded into misguided paths by someone
else, after the first murder, but is solely responsible for his own
fate. He cannot be fairly compared with Claudius - other than to say
that if Macbeth is agreed to be a tragic hero, Claudius has the
advantage.

Steve Roth says: 'It's hard not to admire Claudius. But can we feel pity
for him?'

I can and do.

Brian Haylett

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From:           Sophie Masson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Sunday, 15 Jul 2001 22:44:16 +1000
Subject: 12.1755 Re: The Tragedy of Claudius
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1755 Re: The Tragedy of Claudius

I think Tony Burton makes some excellent points re heroes and villains.
Claudius' supposed tragedy seems to strike echoes amongst people
now--there's also a new production of Hamlet in Sydney that has
precisely this interpretation(with the idea being that old Hamlet was a
bloodthirsty tyrant whom Hamlet was both afraid of and desperately
admiring of, and that Claudius' _only_ sin was to rid the kingdom of Old
Hamlet). But perhaps that is because though ours is supposed to be such
an age that is familiar with, and 'at ease' with ambiguity, in fact the
reverse is the case. Perhaps we have become too accustomed to easy
villainy to be 'comfortable' with the notion of a hero with unpleasant
aspects, as is Hamlet; or a villain with sympathetic aspects, as is
Claudius. Of course, the point is that one _cannot_  be 'comfortable'
with ambiguity. Ambiguity is meant to get under your skin. Shakespeare
and his contemporaries knew that.

Sophie Masson
Author site: http://www.northnet.com.au/~smasson

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From:           Harry Teplitz <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 16 Jul 2001 15:00:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:        Claudius and Cressida

Hi,

I have long argued that Kenneth Branaugh's four-hour Hamlet movie is
more aptly titled the "Tragedy of King Claudius".  Under Branaugh's
direction, Derek Jacobi's king is so sympathetic and so deeply explored
that he seems to eclipse Branaugh's own inscrutable prince.

On another topic, I urge everyone to see the Ashland festival's Troilus
& Cressida.  Director Kenneth Albers has created a magnificent show.  It
is exciting and tender, funny and horrifying.  It
demonstrates razor sharp clarity in the use of the text and stage
imagery; one would never guess that the play had ever been called "a
problem".  This kind of production is the reason that Ashland  enjoys
its stellar reputation.  As an extra treat, in the performance I
attended (July 1), Albers substituted for the regular actor in the role
of Pander.

Cheers,
Harry Teplitz

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Re: The English Verse Drama Database

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.1774  Tuesday, 17 July 2001

From:           Jack Heller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 14 Jul 2001 13:32:28 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: 12.1757 Re: The English Verse Drama Database
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1757 Re: The English Verse Drama Database

The difficulty for someone in my position--located in rural South
Carolina, has been access to good collections. The U of South Carolina
has a good collection, but it is a distance to travel and parking can be
a challenge. Because of research I am doing at Ohio State University
this summer, I will have access to their online resources for a while
after I return home; that I why I asked about the C-H database. I think
I will use it for reading up on some rare plays, make a list, and
reproduce what I need at the U of SC. Thanks for everyone's input on and
off list on this question.

Jack Heller

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Finding History Plays

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.1775  Tuesday, 17 July 2001

From:           Jack Heller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 14 Jul 2001 14:33:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject:        Finding History Plays

Dear Listmembers,

Unless one knows about them, one would not suspect that such plays as IF
YOU KNOW NOT ME, YOU KNOW NOBODY (Thomas Heywood) and WHEN YOU SEE ME,
YOU KNOW ME (Samuel Rowley) are history plays. Is there a good list
somewhere of non-Shakespearean chronicle history plays of the Tudor and
early Stuart eras, especially a list that would include such unusual
titles?

Jack Heller

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Re: Hamlet Haiku Winners

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.1773  Tuesday, 17 July 2001

[1]     From:   Carol A. Cole <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 14 Jul 2001 07:49:53 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.1762 Hamlet Haiku Winners

[2]     From:   Joanne Gates <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 14 Jul 2001 14:13:03 -0500 (CDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.1762 Hamlet Haiku Winners


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From:           Carol A. Cole <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 14 Jul 2001 07:49:53 -0400
Subject: 12.1762 Hamlet Haiku Winners
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1762 Hamlet Haiku Winners

Tanya,

Thanks for posting the Hamlet Haiku winners, and especially for
sponsoring the event in the first place.  What fun!  I enjoyed all the
entries, especially that brilliant piece by Lori Cole--who
coincidentally is also my daughter! ;)

Best, Carol

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From:           Joanne Gates <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 14 Jul 2001 14:13:03 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: 12.1762 Hamlet Haiku Winners
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1762 Hamlet Haiku Winners

Thanks, Tonya for the challenge to make Hamlet into Haiku.

Any one interested in the continuation of the last effort by me, can see
it as a web page at:
http://www.jsu.edu/depart/english/gates/shak/hamlhaik.htm

There are more references to the Hamlet 2000 production, and to topics
brought up on the list.  Few of the stanzas are true haiku; it was too
tempting to string the tercets together with enjambment.

(The reason for the disclaimers at the end:  I still have hopes to train
students to be responsible users of electronic information.)

Joanne Gates

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