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Re: Painters and Poets
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.1658  Friday, 29 June 2001

[1]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Thursday, 28 Jun 2001 17:09:36 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.1647 Painters and Poets

[2]     From:   Peter Donaldson <
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        Date:   Thursday, 28 Jun 2001 20:19:37 -0400
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[3]     From:   Paul Franssen <
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        Date:   Friday, 29 Jun 2001 11:39:02 +0200
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[4]     From:   Steve Roth <
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        Date:   Thursday, 28 Jun 2001 23:14:18 +0200
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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Thursday, 28 Jun 2001 17:09:36 -0400
Subject: 12.1647 Painters and Poets
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1647 Painters and Poets

> I'm trying to recall
> if poets or painters make appearances elsewhere in Shakespeare as such.
> There's Cinna the Poet in JC and the fictional sculptor talked about in
> WT.

Guilio Romano was not a fictional sculptor, unless you mean that he
sculpted fictional subjects.

I suppose the goldsmith in C/E is a similar type of character.

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From:           Peter Donaldson <
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Date:           Thursday, 28 Jun 2001 20:19:37 -0400
Subject: 12.1647 Painters and Poets
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1647 Painters and Poets

Giulio Romano in WT

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From:           Paul Franssen <
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Date:           Friday, 29 Jun 2001 11:39:02 +0200
Subject: 12.1647 Painters and Poets
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1647 Painters and Poets

Hugh Grady asks for painters and poets in Shakespeare's works. In
addition to the ones he himself mentions, there are of course Gower in
*Pericles* and (on a different note) the Rival Poet of the Sonnets. A
highly interesting case of the use of an historical author as a way of
indirect self-representation is the figure of Cremutius Cordus in Ben
Jonson's Sejanus. And if the list will forgive me a bit of relevant
self-advertising, in 1999 my colleague Ton Hoenselaars and myself edited
a volume of essays on *The Author as Character: Representing Historical
Writers in Western Literature* with Fairleigh Dickinson UP.

Paul Franssen
Department of English
University of Utrecht

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From:           Steve Roth <
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Date:           Thursday, 28 Jun 2001 23:14:18 +0200
Subject: 12.1647 Painters and Poets
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1647 Painters and Poets

Well worth reviewing in this context is the expanded painter scene in
Spanish Tragedy, probably added by Jonson in 1601/1602.

Also see Bednarz' Shakespeare and The Poet's War (2001), which comments
on this passage. (On holiday, don't have the book with me, so can't give
details, or the exact scene in Spanish Tragedy.)

Thanks,
Steve

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