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Re: New York Times Articles
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0454  Monday, 18 February 2002

[1]     From:   R. A. Cantrell <
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        Date:   Friday, 15 Feb 2002 11:31:24 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0439 Re: New York Times Articles

[2]     From:   Dave Kathman <
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        Date:   Friday, 15 Feb 2002 13:25:11 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0439 Re: New York Times Articles

[3]     From:   Terry Ross <
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        Date:   Friday, 15 Feb 2002 13:25:37 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0427 New York Times Articles


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From:           R. A. Cantrell <
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Date:           Friday, 15 Feb 2002 11:31:24 -0600
Subject: 13.0439 Re: New York Times Articles
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0439 Re: New York Times Articles

> The NYTimes is widely believed to be a source of unbiased reporting

There's a knee slapper.

All the best,
R.A. Cantrell
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From:           Dave Kathman <
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Date:           Friday, 15 Feb 2002 13:25:11 -0500
Subject: 13.0439 Re: New York Times Articles
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0439 Re: New York Times Articles

Tom Dale Keever wrote,

> It may be too late for people in New York to get into the discussion,
> but I think that this newest batch of Anti-Stratfordians will be on
> WNYC's talk show at noon today.

and Sophie Masson wrote,

> Mike, not William, Rubbo is the Australian film-maker I was telling
> SHAKSPERians about last year (or was it the year before?), who contacted
> me when I published my piece about supposed Shakespeare conspiracies in
> the Sydney Morning Herald. He certainly sems to be getting a lot of
> publicity for his efforts.

It was Mike Rubbo who was on Leonard Lopate's show at noon Thursday on
WNYC (the New York NPR affiliate), but I was also on the show, by phone,
trying my best to keep him honest and stand up for rationality.  He was
there to promote his new film, "Much Ado About Something", which is
about the people who think Marlowe faked his death and wrote
Shakespeare, but which also has appearances by Jonathan Bate, Stanley
Wells, and several other real scholars.  I was also supposed to be in
the film, but Mike had to cancel at the last minute due to a personal
crisis, which may be why he suggested me to represent the "Stratfordian"
side in the radio discussion.  I think I did a reasonable job within the
inevitable limitations of such a forum.  Rubbo kept harping about how
there was "no way" Shakespeare could have learned everything in the
plays without lots of formal education; I kept pointing out that every
scholar who is knowledgeable on the subject has disagreed with this
assessment; that there were tons of resources available on Elizabethan
London for any smart autodidact; that Shakespeare's plays are not
particularly learned compared to those of many other people who also had
very little documented formal education (e.g. Jonson, Webster); and so
on.  I think WNYC archives their shows for a couple of weeks on their
web site (www.wnyc.org; look under "New York and Company"), so people
might be able to listen to the show still.

Also, I would urge everybody on this list to write to the New York Times
as Geralyn Horton suggested (
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incredibly shoddy, distorted piece of pro-Oxfordian propaganda they
printed last Sunday.  If possible, don't just call them idiots, but
point out some of the howlers in the article, and explain why you,
personally, do not take Oxfordians seriously.  The Oxfordians seem to be
on a major media push right now, and have managed to fool several media
outlets into treating them with respect.  Those media outlets need to
know that there are people out there who still care about intellectual
standards, and who don't appreciate seeing distortions and
anti-scholarly propaganda passed off as fact.

Dave Kathman

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From:           Terry Ross <
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Date:           Friday, 15 Feb 2002 13:25:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 13.0427 New York Times Articles
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0427 New York Times Articles

> The New York Times reporter William S. Niederkorn has two articles in
> last Sunday's edition (Feb. 10, 2002).  One is a review of William
> Rubbo's anti-Stratfordian (Marlovian) documentary, "Much Ado about
> Something," and the other is an article that purports to describe the
> authorship controversy but actually advocates the anti-Stratfordian
> position very strongly.  The article does mention Terry Gray and David
> Kathman's website, but Niederkorn has either not read their website or
> has not paid attention to it if he has read it.

Dave Kathman's partner is Terry ROSS, actually, not Terry Gray (who
manages the marvelous "Mr. William Shakespeare and the Internet Site).
The Times reporter did not bother to get in touch with Dave or me.

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