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Re: Hamlets (Skinhead and Arnold)
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0521  Friday, 22 February 2002

[1]     From:   Donna Williams <
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        Date:   Friday, 22 Feb 2002 00:16:15 +0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0492 Re: Skinhead Hamlet

[2]     From:   Robert Shaughnessy <
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        Date:   Thursday, 21 Feb 2002 19:54:15 -0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0508 Re: Skinhead Hamlet

[3]     From:   Robert O'Connor <
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        Date:   Friday, 22 Feb 2002 09:14:22 +1100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 13.0508 Re: Skinhead Hamlet

[4]     From:   Don Bloom <
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        Date:   Friday, 22 Feb 2002 07:04:05 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0508 Re: Skinhead Hamlet

[5]     From:   John Velz <
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        Date:   Thursday, 21 Feb 2002 22:53:08 -0600
        Subj:   Arnold and Hamlet


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From:           Donna Williams <
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Date:           Friday, 22 Feb 2002 00:16:15 +0800
Subject: 13.0492 Re: Skinhead Hamlet
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0492 Re: Skinhead Hamlet

> If you're going to use Richard Curtis' work in its entirety to advertise
> your play, it would be nice to:
> a> attribute the writer; and,
> b> send him a couple of free tickets. I'll even offer myself as a proxy
> if
> he can't make it.
> =)
> Auctor
>
> -- This seems to imply that someone called Richard Curtis wrote the
> text. Anyone clarify this?  Or am I (mis)remembering a totally different
> Skinhead Hamlet?)

Richard Curtis co-wrote Blackadder (Rowan Atkinson) with Ben Elton.

Donna

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From:           Robert Shaughnessy <
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Date:           Thursday, 21 Feb 2002 19:54:15 -0000
Subject: 13.0508 Re: Skinhead Hamlet
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0508 Re: Skinhead Hamlet

John Velz's informant's recall is less than total. The Arnie-as-Hamlet
sequence is in Last Action Hero, a strangely redundant self-parody of
AS's oeuvre.  I quite like it, although the majority of students to whom
I've shown the sequence tend to sit through it stony-faced.  They
probably have a point.

Robert Shaughnessy

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From:           Robert O'Connor <
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Date:           Friday, 22 Feb 2002 09:14:22 +1100
Subject: 13.0508 Re: Skinhead Hamlet
Comment:        RE: SHK 13.0508 Re: Skinhead Hamlet

The Schwarzenegger doing Hamlet scene is in *The Last Action Hero*, a
truly crapulous film in no way redeemed by the presence of Ian McKellen
doing a very *Seventh Seal* turn as Death ... but the *Hamlet* sequence
may justify the rental fee.  The movie can probably be found in the
'specials' bin at the back of the store!

In a different vein I recall seeing a Western-style *Hamlet* parody by
the Canadian duo Wayne and Shuster - which alongside the law firm of
Rose and Krantz and Guild and Stern had Ophelia holding a banana and
muttering "Is this a dagger I see before me?"  One of the other
characters observed: "She must be mad, this is *Hamlet* and she's doing
*Macbeth*!"

Rob O'Connor

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From:           Don Bloom <
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Date:           Friday, 22 Feb 2002 07:04:05 -0600
Subject: 13.0508 Re: Skinhead Hamlet
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0508 Re: Skinhead Hamlet

HH offers this:

>   A side note -- my wife remarked the other
> day that if Shakespeare were alive today, he'd probably be a
> screenwriter, and that the screenwriter has much the same status in our
> culture as a playwright did in Shakespeare's.  They do wonderful work,
> are hugely popular and widely acclaimed, but nobody knows who they are
> (and they certainly don't get the big bucks).  It's an interesting
> thought.

I agree, and although the parallel is (inevitably) inexact, I have used
it with undergraduate types to get across what S and his colleagues were
up to.

Screenwriters today may not big bucks (compared to superstar actors,
directors and producers) but they can and do make quite a lot, sometimes
for doing very little (as in the case of about ninety per cent of all TV
scripts), sometimes for doing nothing at all (see the book, "Only You
Dick Daring").

However, people like Steven Spielberg and George Lukas rake in the vast
millions by becoming something more than mere script writers. I believe
it is well accepted that S became financially comfortable (if not
precisely rich) because he was a shareholder in the company and its
theatre, not because he wrote literature of eternal greatness. This may
offend our classical (or romantic) ideals, but it seems to be as much a
truth today as four centuries ago.

Cheers,
don

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From:           John Velz <
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Date:           Thursday, 21 Feb 2002 22:53:08 -0600
Subject:        Arnold and Hamlet

Dear all,

I received several detailed accounts of the scene in *The Last Action
Hero* with Schwartzeneger as Hamlet.  Joan Plowright as the teacher and
the Olivier film of the prayer scene.  Great stuff.

Thanks to all of you and thanks to Hardy for providing this great venue
for getting quick answers to factual questions like mine.

Yours for information,
John

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