2002

Re: Courtly Love in Shakespeare

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0544  Monday, 25 February 2002

From:           John E. Perry <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 22 Feb 2002 22:56:25 -0500
Subject: 13.0533 Re: Courtly Love in Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0533 Re: Courtly Love in Shakespeare

Please, Dr. Hamilton!

I'm not a scholar, and the biggest reason I subscribe to SHAKSPER is to
eavesdrop on exchanges like this.  Please don't deprive me.

John Perry

> I was going to go on [and on, and on] about _The Symposium_, but I think
> I've already said more than enough.  (Do you want to take this up
> backchannel, Tue?)
>
> Robin Hamilton

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Re: Japanese Productions of Shakespeare

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0543  Monday, 25 February 2002

From:           Eleni Pilla <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 22 Feb 2002 21:05:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: 13.0490 Re: Japanese Productions of Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0490 Re: Japanese Productions of Shakespeare

I'd like to thank all of you for your suggestions.

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Re: Medium & Message, Fact and "History"

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0541  Monday, 25 February 2002

[1]     From:   Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 22 Feb 2002 10:53:30 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0529 Medium & Message, Fact and "History"

[2]     From:   Bill Arnold <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 22 Feb 2002 17:20:22 -0800 (PST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0529 Medium & Message, Fact and "History"

[3]     From:   Brandon Toropov <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 23 Feb 2002 05:57:25 -0800 (PST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0529 Medium & Message, Fact and "History"

[4]     From:   Sophie Masson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Monday, 25 Feb 2002 03:38:10 +1100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0529 Medium & Message, Fact and "History"


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From:           Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 22 Feb 2002 10:53:30 -0800
Subject: 13.0529 Medium & Message, Fact and "History"
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0529 Medium & Message, Fact and "History"

Martin Steward writes,

>"History is not what you thought. It is what you can remember. All other
>history defeats itself".
>
>Sound like Foucault...?

Sounds like the wonderfully short parody, 1066 and All That.  More
seriously, if carried to its logical extreme, this sort of view might
actually seem to justify lies.

Cheers,
Se


Re: Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0542  Monday, 25 February 2002

[1]     From:   Matt Henerson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 22 Feb 2002 15:45:35 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0532 Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did

[2]     From:   Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 23 Feb 2002 02:35:48 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0532 Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did

[3]     From:   Ruth Ross <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 23 Feb 2002 13:10:54 -0500
        Subj:   RE: SHK 13.0532 Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did


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From:           Matt Henerson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 22 Feb 2002 15:45:35 EST
Subject: 13.0532 Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0532 Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did

I've heard the following quote attributed to Mark Twain:

"I believe the plays were either written by somebody called Shakespeare
or somebody calling himself Shakespeare."

Matt

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From:           Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 23 Feb 2002 02:35:48 -0500
Subject: 13.0532 Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0532 Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did

I have heard it before, but also can't put my finger on the source.  It
might be Groucho Marx.  I think it goes:  "William Shakespeare did not
write the plays attributed to him; they were written by someone else
with the same name."

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From:           Ruth Ross <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 23 Feb 2002 13:10:54 -0500
Subject: 13.0532 Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did
Comment:        RE: SHK 13.0532 Somebody Else Named Shakespeare Did

Jack,

I don't know who originally said it, but I remember Dr. Doris Falk, my
professor at Douglass College in the early sixties, said, "If
Shakespeare didn't write the plays, then a man of the same name did." I
find this squabble over authorship a bit surreal. The plays can stand on
their own. Until we discover more compelling and concrete evidence about
the man named Shakespeare, we'll never be sure who the author really
is.  Does it matter?  My honors English 12 students did a web quest on
the authorship question and couldn't understand what the flap was about.

Ruth Ross

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Re: Honan's "Shakespeare: The Man"

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0540  Monday, 25 February 2002

[1]     From:   Steve Roth <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 22 Feb 2002 10:16:27 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0491 Honan's "Shakespeare: The Man"

[2]     From:   Takashi Kozuka <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 22 Feb 2002 18:35:51 +0000 (GMT)
        Subj:   Re: Honan's "Shakespeare: The Man"


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From:           Steve Roth <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 22 Feb 2002 10:16:27 -0800
Subject: 13.0491 Honan's "Shakespeare: The Man"
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0491 Honan's "Shakespeare: The Man"

>I'm looking for the book which includes Park Honan's essay entitled
>"Shakespeare the Man".

>From World Shakespeare Bibliography:
===========
Batchelor, Shakespearean Continuities [F]: 161-74. 1997
Notes/Performers        [Surveys biographical studies of Shakespeare,
with attention to what we know and might yet learn about Shakespeare's
character.]
Persons Batchelor, John; Cain, Tom; Lamont, Claire
===========

>My university library doesn't
>subscribe to the World Shakespeare Bibliography Online

WORTHY OF ALL CAPS: They are now offering individual subscriptions at
VERY REASONABLE RATES:

Individual Access       $60 a year
Individual Access (SAA member)  $50 a year
Individual Access (Shakespeare Quarterly Subscriber)    $30 a year
Institutional Access    $225

I'd be interested to hear whether this works as a sustainable business
model.

As an indy who has only limited status/access via my local graduate
library (U of Wash), I'd like to see others offer similar access plans.

EEBO is only available to participating institutions (U of Wash is one,
but I have to go to the library to use it), and LION offers no
individual subscription rates (I haven't even managed to get a quote
from them of the institutional rates; they keep passing me off to some
not-terribly-useful [for me] student site they've built).

Thanks,
Steve
http://princehamlet.com

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From:           Takashi Kozuka <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 22 Feb 2002 18:35:51 +0000 (GMT)
Subject:        Re: Honan's "Shakespeare: The Man"

Judy Kennedy writes,

> I wonder whether Takashi Kozuka could perhaps be
> thinking of David
> Bevington's essay "Shakespeare the Man" in David
> Scott Kastan's _A
> Companion to Shakespeare_ (Blackwell, 1999)?

Nope. There is an essay with the same title by Honan (which came out
before Bevington's). Two SHAKSPEReans e-mailed me the information I
needed. Thank you!

Best wishes,
Takashi

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