The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0238  Tuesday, 29 January 2002

[1]     From:   Mike Jensen <
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        Date:   Monday, 28 Jan 2002 10:32:28 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0224 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

[2]     From:   R. A. Cantrell <
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        Date:   Monday, 28 Jan 2002 21:21:09 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0224 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance


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From:           Mike Jensen <
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Date:           Monday, 28 Jan 2002 10:32:28 -0800
Subject: 13.0224 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0224 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

This is a very hard message from me to write.  Terrance Hawkes posted:

>>>If Charles Weinstein's account of the threats of physical violence and
>>>the death-wish he has received is accurate, then he is absolutely right
>>>to be concerned. The issuing of threats of this nature is a serious
>>>offence in law and it would be unwise of list-members to appear in any
>>>way to want to sweep it under the carpet. The suggestion that such
>>>matters should be kept 'off-list' seems to move in that direction. On the
>>>contrary, we need to make quite clear our wholesale disapproval of such
>>>tactics in any shape or form and in any location, public or
>>>private. Unless and until we do, we risk becoming a laughing-stock in
>>>the public prints.

If I may speak candidly, I am the culprit, and I am truly sorry.  I
don't even remember the first incident.  The way my mind works, I
probably thought something like, "Weinstein mugs actors with his
reviews, so I'll make a joke about mugging him in an alley to hold a
mirror up to him, ironically showing him what he does to others."  I
could NEVER mean this seriously.  I can well understand how the irony
could be lost on anyone, and how it could be taken as a real threat.  I
wrote to Mr. Weinstein, explained, and apologized Sunday.

In the second incident, Mr. Weinstein posted one of his nasty messages
about someone I have met and liked very much.  I was so enraged that I
wrote telling him I hoped he'd die of cancer.  List members may not
believe this, but the truth is that I had the curser over the SEND
button, realized that sending the message would make me as bad as he is,
maybe worse, and tried to move the curser to CANCEL.  I don't know if
this has ever happened to you, but it clicked on SEND as I tried to move
it.  I had that OH CRAP feeling, and immediately wrote an apology.  I
didn't mention about clicking SEND accidentally in my apology, because I
realize it sounds phony, but I know it is true.

The first incident really was an attempt at humor and correction, I now
realize very misguided.  This second is much harder to excuse.
Weinstien has been told all this off-list, but it makes no difference to
him.

I am sensibly ashamed of my actions, and have not repeated them, though
I have tried to be fearless about standing up to Mr. Weinstein on-list
in other ways.

Mike Jensen

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From:           R. A. Cantrell <
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Date:           Monday, 28 Jan 2002 21:21:09 -0600
Subject: 13.0224 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0224 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

>I'm curious.  Does anybody besides, possibly, Mr. Weinstein, consider
>the above to be examples of reasoned argument?

Yes

All the best,
R. A. Cantrell
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