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Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0258  Wednesday, 30 January 2002

[Editor's Note: This thread has passed its useful life. If anyone wishes
to continue with it, please do so off-list. -Hardy]

[1]     From:   Mike Jensen <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 29 Jan 2002 12:58:34 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0238 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

[2]     From:   Karen Peterson <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 29 Jan 2002 13:52:15 -0800 (PST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0238 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

[3]     From:   Mike Jensen <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 29 Jan 2002 13:58:15 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0238 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

[4]     From:   Charles Weinstein <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 29 Jan 2002 19:18:00 -0500
        Subj:   Postmodern Shakespearean Performance


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From:           Mike Jensen <
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Date:           Tuesday, 29 Jan 2002 12:58:34 -0800
Subject: 13.0238 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0238 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

I asked:

> >I'm curious.  Does anybody besides, possibly, Mr. Weinstein, consider
> >the above to be examples of reasoned argument?

R. A. Cantrell replied:

>Yes

How?  Please enlighten me?

Mike Jensen

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From:           Karen Peterson <
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Date:           Tuesday, 29 Jan 2002 13:52:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 13.0238 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0238 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

Ok, everybody stand up.

All standing?  Good.  Now, remain standing if you have never done
something you later regretted deeply, never done something you know now
was wrong, never done something you'd give practically anything not to
have done.

Anyone still standing?  Right -- there, the guy in the corner, you with
the holes in your hands...oh, never mind.  Anyone ELSE?

I didn't think so.

I think it took a lot of guts to make the admission that Mike Jensen did
yesterday.  I'm not sure I would have had it in me to do what he did.
Had it been me, I would have been sorely tempted to just go into "lurk"
mode for a while, rather than admit a serious, embarrassing mistake and
apologize for it in a forum which includes many people whom I know and
whose work I respect.  That would have been the easy way out, but Mike
did not take it.

Well done, MJ.

Karen E. Peterson
University of Wales, Lampeter

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From:           Mike Jensen <
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Date:           Tuesday, 29 Jan 2002 13:58:15 -0800
Subject: 13.0238 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0238 Re: Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

I begin with two words nobody wants to use:  My cardiologist tells me
that if I have a sudden increase in chest pain when reading or
responding to messages from Mr. Weinstein, then I should stop reading
and responding to them.

This bothers me because Mr. Weinstein succeeded in getting the emphasis
off his own behavior, and that has not been redressed.  My good wife,
however, reminds me that I have responsibilities closer to home, and I
should follow my doctor's orders.  I long ago came to realize that she
is always right.

I am pleased that others are debating one of Mr. Weinstein's tactics on
another thread, though I fear nothing will come of it.

Mike Jensen

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From:           Charles Weinstein <
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Date:           Tuesday, 29 Jan 2002 19:18:00 -0500
Subject:        Postmodern Shakespearean Performance

Mr. Jensen here produces his whimsical excuse about the "click-send"
button for the first time.  I reserve judgment as to its veracity.  He
did send me an "apology" for his thuggish behavior in which he stated:
"I descended to your level."  I found that to be back-handed, craven and
contemptible.  Finally, and tiresomely, he has been sending me insulting
e-mails this week while stating that he will not read my replies.  In
the hope that he will read this one, let me tell him unequivocally that
he is never to write to me again.

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm looking forward to the week
off.

--Charles Weinstein

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