The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0701  Friday, 8 March 2002

[1]     From:   Jonathan Hope <
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        Date:   Thursday, 7 Mar 2002 16:03:29 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos

[2]     From:   H David Friedberg <
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        Date:   Thursday, 07 Mar 2002 13:56:29 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos

[3]     From:   Stuart Manger <
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        Date:   Thursday, 7 Mar 2002 23:27:15 +0000
        Subj:   SHK 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos

[4]     From:   Martin Steward <
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        Date:   Friday, 8 Mar 2002 09:59:35 -0000
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From:           Jonathan Hope <
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Date:           Thursday, 7 Mar 2002 16:03:29 +0100
Subject: 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos

Mark Perryman's *Philosophy Football* (Penguin 1997) has Shakespeare
lining up as midfield playmaker (hem hem) alongside Sun 'The Art of War'
Tzu  - a fearsome combination of creativity and strategy - which is just
as well, as I'm less impressed by the forward line - Umberto Eco and
Gramsci through the middle, and Oscar Wilde and Bob Marley (!) playing
wide.

Jonathan Hope
Strathclyde University, Glasgow, sadly watching Newcastle's challenge
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From:           H David Friedberg <
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Date:           Thursday, 07 Mar 2002 13:56:29 -0500
Subject: 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos

> Quote from a very serious top manager straining to be wise: "A game of
> football is not over till the final whistle blows".
>
> Not great poetry either.

No, but this might be:  "It ain't over till its over,"   L.P. (Yogi)
Berra

Yes. The Yogi Berra statement is profound.  Like Irish bulls his
pronouncements are pregnant with hidden meaning

Besides, a soccer game is not necessarily over when the final whistle
blows

Can not the Disciplinary Committee suspend a player later on for several
games?  etc., etc

H David Friedberg

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From:           Stuart Manger <
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Date:           Thursday, 7 Mar 2002 23:27:15 +0000
Subject: Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos
Comment:        SHK 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos

The quote about football being more serious than life or death is by
Bill Shankly, late and lamented manager of Liverpool FC I think you'll
find.

Stuart Manger

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From:           Martin Steward <
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Date:           Friday, 8 Mar 2002 09:59:35 -0000
Subject: 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0684 Re: Shakespearean FA Cup Promos

John Ramsay recalls this anecdote:

Naive reporter, after a Manchester United game: "Why does soccer have to
be such a life and death matter?" Manager of United: "But you don't
understand. It's much more serious than that."

That was Bill Shankley (1913-1981 manager of Liverpool FC), surely? As
quoted in The Sunday Times obits October 4th 1981 (and elsewhere).

m

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