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Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0727  Monday, 11 March 2002

[1]     From:   David Lindley <
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        Date:   Friday, 8 Mar 2002 16:40:09 GMT0BST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation

[2]     From:   Edmund Taft <
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        Date:   Friday, 08 Mar 2002 12:57:28 -0500
        Subj:   A Renaissance in need of Reformation

[3]     From:   Martin Orkin <
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        Date:   Friday, 08 Mar 2002 19:31:35 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation

[4]     From:   Bill Arnold <
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        Date:   Friday, 8 Mar 2002 20:16:54 -0800 (PST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation

[5]     From:   Miranda Johnson-Haddad <
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        Date:   Sat, 09 Mar 2002 11:15:12 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation


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From:           David Lindley <
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Date:           Friday, 8 Mar 2002 16:40:09 GMT0BST
Subject: 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation

Does it occur to anyone else as strange that Mr Weinstein should
obviously have spent a great deal of time watching films of which he
must know he will disapprove before he begins?  I don't like much
popular music - therefore I don't listen to it (and don't write about
it).  Wouldn't a similar policy make for a happier life for Mr Weinstein
and save us reading pointless tirades.  Or is it simply a case of
'longing still / For that which longer nurseth the disease'?

David Lindley
University of Leeds

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From:           Edmund Taft <
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Date:           Friday, 08 Mar 2002 12:57:28 -0500
Subject:        A Renaissance in need of Reformation

Stephen Dobbin notes that

"Several years ago in its Feedback column, the British magazine 'New
Scientist' identified an inexplicable phenomenon it called 'nominative
determinism' which may be defined as the human compulsion to take up a
profession described by his or her surname.

It seems to have first been remarked on in 1994, when 'Feedback' drew
readers attention to a paper on incontinence in the British Journal of
Urology which was authored by J.W. Splatt and D. Weedon."

This phenomenon is exemplified in Edmund Spenser's _Faerie Queene_, in
which we find such characters as Una, Duessa, Archimago, Amoret, The
Churl, the Fisherman, Proteus, Belphoebe, Pastorella, Talos, etc., etc.

In real life, we have the editor of SHAKSPER, whose culinary talents are
well known; Terence H, who reads posts with a sharp eye and then swoops
in for the kill; Don B, whose thumb is eternally green; Dana S, who
always has small change available; Joanna W, who loves to go after big
fish; Jonathan H, who always springs eternal; Larry W, whose erudition
amazes friend and foe alike; and Bill G, who is engaged in an
existential struggle with God Himself.

Personally, I found Stephen's post neither plodding nor lame. But it
contains rather old and worn-out news.

--Ed Taft

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From:           Martin Orkin <
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Date:           Friday, 08 Mar 2002 19:31:35 -0800
Subject: 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation

Actually, I have always found L DiCaprio particularly dishy. Sounds like
I'd rather meet him, or indeed Baz Luhrmann, than Charles Weinstein, in
a dark Stratford alley, any night of the week,

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From:           Bill Arnold <
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Date:           Friday, 8 Mar 2002 20:16:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation

Stephen Dobbin writes, "Several years ago in its Feedback column, the
British magazine 'New Scientist' identified an inexplicable phenomenon
it called 'nominative determinism' which may be defined as the human
compulsion to take up a profession described by his or her surname.  It
seems to have first been remarked on in 1994, when 'Feedback' drew
readers attention to a paper on incontinence in the British Journal of
Urology which was authored by J.W.  Splatt and D. Weedon."

This made me smile :)  Since my youth I have been a writer and have
worked as a journalist as well as a teacher, among other occupations.
Journalists will tell you that an editor doing a story on birds will
tell a reporter to get an expert to backup a story, and say "get a fit
name," say a Dr. Bird or Dr. Wing.  You are so right on.

Bill Arnold

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From:           Miranda Johnson-Haddad <
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Date:           Sat, 09 Mar 2002 11:15:12 EST
Subject: 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0715 Re: A Renaissance in Need of Reformation

I really didn't intend to dignify Charles Weinstein's diatribe with a
response, but the intelligent postings of others have encouraged me to
make this one observation: I find it remarkable that Weinstein would
complain that Emma Thompson's Katherine isn't French enough.  It doesn't
seem to have occurred to him that it is, in fact, Shakespeare's
Katherine, as written, who is "as French as Yorkshire pudding."

On another note, I am grateful to Stephen Dobbin for pointing out that
names, as I have always suspected, are indeed destiny...

Best,
Miranda "Yes, that's really my name" Johnson-Haddad
http://mail.yahoo.com/


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