2002

Re: Olivier

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0662  Tuesday, 5 March 2002

From:           Janet OKeefe <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 4 Mar 2002 14:39:25 -0800
Subject: 13.0627 Re: Olivier
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0627 Re: Olivier

>>  Soaps,
>> sit-coms and chat shows are still the most popular
>> form of entertainment
>> in the English speaking world.  In the UK the
>> "Eastenders" soap gets 25
>> million viewers per night.  Nothing else can beat
>> that.

Again, NO ONE watches soaps for the great dialogue.  It's the plot. Who
sleeps with who? Who is  going to kill who? Much like a Shakespearean
comedy. Except Shakespeare's dialogue is far better.

Janet T. O'Keefe

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Re: Adult Spin-off of Othello

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0661  Tuesday, 5 March 2002

From:           William Proctor Williams <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 04 Mar 2002 15:46:59 -0500
Subject: 13.0636 Adult Spin-off of Othello
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0636 Adult Spin-off of Othello

I like the sound of this.  Is there a schedule?  How does one book?

William Proctor Williams

> The Critical Theory Workshop Experimental Studio Rehearsal Space
> announces that its adult feature 'Brothello' (or 'Strumpet Voluntary')
> has been green-lighted for production, indicted for derogation and
> catheterised for obstruction. Directed by biker film veteran Harley
> Granville Davidson, it stars the aging 'AC/DC' Bradley (as "Oh", a man
> most likely to), leathered-up marxist Elsie Knights (as "Ho", a sportive
> femme de chambre), and the zany duo Furnivall and Furness (as wrinkled
> old family retainers).  Coghill, the Wonder Dog, has a resourceful, if
> somewhat dismaying role.
>
> T. Hawkes

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Re: Machiavelli

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0659  Tuesday, 5 March 2002

From:           Don Bloom <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 4 Mar 2002 13:34:04 -0600
Subject: 13.0537 Re: Machiavelli
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0537 Re: Machiavelli

Sam Small writes,

> Sean Lawrence seems to think there was some contradiction in my earlier
> post.  Most people who use the adjective "Machiavellian" have never read
> Machiavelli.  They describe someone as Machiavellian as being willfully
> devious and evil; someone who actually knows they are doing wrong yet do
> it anyway for their own gain perhaps with some flimsy justification to
> assuage their conscience.

Dunno, but have you checked a dictionary lately? The meanings of words
are arrived at rather mysteriously and democratically, and not according
to what someone feels they should mean -- even if that individual is
logically correct. M'self, I would say that the meaning of
"machiavellian" is whatever your readers think of when you write it,
even if that's wrong.

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean whatever
you want." "The question is," said Humpty-Dumpty, " who is to be the
master."

(I think that's quoted fairly accurately.)

Cheers,
Prof. H. Dumpty, FuD (aka d. bloom)

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Re: Thrice This and That

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0660  Tuesday, 5 March 2002

[1]     From:   Melissa D. Aaron <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Monday, 4 Mar 2002 20:03:00 +0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.0626 Re: Thrice This and That

[2]     From:   Larry Barkley <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Monday, 4 Mar 2002 21:51:22 -0800
        Subj:   Number 3


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From:           Melissa D. Aaron <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 4 Mar 2002 20:03:00 +0000
Subject: 13.0626 Re: Thrice This and That
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.0626 Re: Thrice This and That

Jim Slager writes,

>Id, ego, superego.
>Mother, father, self.
>Man, woman, third person who messes up the relationship.
>Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
>Shakespeare's Stratford church: Holy Trinity.
>The triangle is the only polygon which bears weight from any direction.
>Locating a point in space requires 3 axes.
>The integer closest to the scientific constants Pi and e is 3.
>The number of atoms in a water molecule is 3.
>A good pitcher almost always has mastery of 3 pitches (like fast ball,
>curve, slider).
>
>3 is obviously a pretty cool number.

As Feste indeed informs Orsino in Act V of Twelfth Night, as he tries to
beg a third coin.

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From:           Larry Barkley <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 4 Mar 2002 21:51:22 -0800
Subject:        Number 3

Dear SHAKSPEReans:

For an informative analysis/discussion/review of the #3 in American
culture, see Alan Dundes' "The Number Three in American Culture," (pp.
134-159) in his INTERPRETING FOLKLORE (Indiana UP: Bloomington, 1980).

Larry

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Re: Hamlet (Once More)

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0658  Tuesday, 5 March 2002

From:           Edmund Taft <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 04 Mar 2002 14:24:48 -0500
Subject:        Hamlet (Once More)

Ruth Ross writes,

"Responding to Edmund Taft's point about Hamlet's baiting Claudius to
the point where the king acts criminally: sounds like something the
police in NYC do when they want to catch people they consider
criminals."

Yes. good point. Literary historians usually credit Wilkie Collins with
writing the first modern detective stories. Maybe Will should get the
credit.

--Ed Taft

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