The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1216  Thursday, 2 May 2002

[1]     From:   Jimmy Jung <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 1 May 2002 11:31:39 -0400
        Subj:   Romeo and Juliet

[2]     From:   Douglas Chapman <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 1 May 2002 13:19:47 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1209 Re: Romeo and Juliet

[3]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 01 May 2002 15:27:08 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1209 Re: Romeo and Juliet


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From:           Jimmy Jung <
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Date:           Wednesday, 1 May 2002 11:31:39 -0400
Subject:        Romeo and Juliet

It is my own hamartia that I so grievously desire the last word.  But I
doubt I will get it.  I even had to look up hamartia, which
dictionary.com gives as "Tragic Flaw."

I will say that when I called Romeo a sap, it is because I have a hard
time being sympathetic with the character.  However, a few posts ago,
when I also said Hamlet, Lear, and Othello might all be considered saps,
it occurred to me that I my use of the term "sap," was becoming somewhat
synonymous with "tragic flaw."

Just another airy word to stir the civil brawl.

Jimmy

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From:           Douglas Chapman <
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Date:           Wednesday, 1 May 2002 13:19:47 EDT
Subject: 13.1209 Re: Romeo and Juliet
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1209 Re: Romeo and Juliet

<< ... it seems to me
that R&J is a cautionary tale about the danger of passion.   >>

Perhaps more accurately, the danger of disallowed passion, or even make
that youthful passion.

Douglas Chapman

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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Wednesday, 01 May 2002 15:27:08 -0400
Subject: 13.1209 Re: Romeo and Juliet
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1209 Re: Romeo and Juliet

> Caesar is a massive candidate for villain in my
> estimation. He certainly is not a sympathetic character.

Octavius is an antagonist, which is not the same thing as a villain.
Iago, Edmund and, arguably, Claudius are both.  Macbeth is the
protagonist AND the villain.

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