2002

Re: Edgar and Edmund

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2361  Friday, 29 November 2002

[1]     From:   Terence Hawkes <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 27 Nov 2002 13:06:59 -0500
        Subj:   SHK 13.2344 Re: Edgar and Edmund

[2]     From:   Jhoanna Aberia <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 28 Nov 2002 06:35:12 +0000
        Subj:   Edmund and Edgar


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From:           Terence Hawkes <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 27 Nov 2002 13:06:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Edgar and Edmund
Comment:        SHK 13.2344 Re: Edgar and Edmund

If Carol Barton and Ed Taft are to continue their analysis of Cordelia's
real motivation in such detail, then may I once again suggest to them
that Mrs Lear's continued absence is a crucial factor. It's not as if we
were ignorant of that poor, driven woman's unfortunate habits. The
business with the map cruelly reflects some of them.  Certainly 'Lalage'
(her street name) has a good deal to answer for, as her social worker's
report indicates.  Ms Barton and Mr Taft's refusal to take account of
such matters is beginning to seem wilful.

Terence Hawkes
The Bradley Lounge
The Critical Theory Workshop Experimental Studio Rehearsal Space

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From:           Jhoanna Aberia <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Nov 2002 06:35:12 +0000
Subject:        Edmund and Edgar

Roy Flannagan asks:

"And why does he act like an older brother?"

I'm not sure that I would attribute Edmund's behavior to that of an
older brother, at least in terms of publicly dominating Edgar.
Calculating and manipulative, yes, but he doesn't out and out order his
brother to leave the kingdom in 1.2.  Instead he couches his words to
Edgar as advice ("Pray you, have a continent forbearance..." and
"Brother, I advise you to the best.").  He remains outwardly respectful
to Edgar, calling him "O sir" in 2.1.  Edmund's cunning is in his
knowledge of how to apply pressure to achieve his goals without
divulging his agenda.  He is almost chameleon-like in his ability and
willingness to alter himself for his "business," changing his manner to
appeal to whomever he's addressing.

Jhoanna Aberia

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Lear's Reflections, et cetera

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2360  Friday, 29 November 2002

From:           H. R. Greenberg <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 27 Nov 2002 18:15:47 EST
Subject:        Lear's Reflections, et cetera

My 17 year old son has been given an assignment to write about Lear,
notably about artistic influences from non-dramatic sources that may
have played upon Shakespeare, as well as subsequent artistic work
derived from or surrounding Lear. He is particularly interested in
music, in this vein -- being a jazz guitarist himself.

I do not know of any single early music, Elizabethan musical 'influence'
backgrounding Lear if any such existed. One thinks of settings of the
Absolom story in terms of ungrateful children, et cetera. I believe
Tallis or Byrd may have done one such 


England's Elizabeth

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2358  Friday, 29 November 2002

From:           Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 27 Nov 2002 19:27:48 -0500
Subject:        England's Elizabeth

I'd like to alert members of this list to the publication of Michael
Dobson and Nicola Watson's excellent co-authored book, England's
Elizabeth: An Afterlife in Fame Fantasy (Oxford UP). It has an
interesting discussion of how Elizabeth's afterlives are intertwined
with Shakespeare's including films such as Shakespeare in Love.
Numerous illustrations, including color plates.

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Picturing Shakespeare

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2359  Friday, 29 November 2002

From:           Kullervo de la Neige <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Nov 2002 00:15:20 -0500
Subject:        Picturing Shakespeare

Hello SHAKSPEReans:

Here is an article from one of our local papers, the Globe and Mail, on
the recent "Picturing Shakespeare" conference which was held here in
Toronto. For some reason which now escapes me, (surely not a wifely
command?) I was out of town when the conference took place. Still, I
would be interested in seeing posted to the list the thoughts of anyone
who was able to attend. Mr. Cook? That would be you! In particular,
there was a public lecture by Professor Alexander Leggatt (Department of
English, University of Toronto) entitled: "The Sanders Portrait: Why
Does It Matter?"

Good question. Can anyone out there summarize Professor Leggat's
argument? Why does it matter?

Terve Kullervo

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Re: "Esperance!"

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2357  Friday, 29 November 2002

From:           R. A. Cantrell <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 27 Nov 2002 10:57:08 -0600
Subject: 13.2348 Re: "Esperance!"
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.2348 Re: "Esperance!"

>Professor Kastan further tries my patience by suggesting
>that "Roan" is the name of Hotspur's horse; an insight which had eluded
>previous commentators.
>
>John Briggs

John, please take pity on us Drugstore Critics. I earnestly thought that
I had bet my money on a bob-tail mare (not nag) and have all my life
urged others to bet on the bay (not gray). Hi-yo, and

All the best,
R.A. Cantrell
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