2002

Lyly in Performance

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2257  Tuesday, 12 November 2002

From:           Ivan Fuller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 11 Nov 2002 09:44:37 -0600
Subject:        Lyly in Performance

I am currently at work on an article about the contemporary
performability of John Lyly's Gallathea" and am interested to hear about
any productions of ANY Lyly plays that have been witnessed recently.  I
realize that they are something of a rarity, but you never know what
nuggets might turn up.

Thanks for your help,
Ivan Fuller
Augustana College
Sioux Falls, SD

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Upcoming Hiatus

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2256  Tuesday, 12 November 2002

From:           Hardy M. Cook <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Tuesday, November 12, 2002
Subject:        Upcoming Hiatus

Dear SHAKSPEReans,

I leave early Thursday morning for Toronto to attend the 


Joyce and Jonson

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2255  Monday, 11 November 2002

From:           Mike Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Sunday, 10 Nov 2002 10:21:18 -0800
Subject:        Joyce and Jonson

Please help my memory.  We all know that Joyce alluded to Shakespeare.
Does he allude to Jonson at all?

No need to trouble the stressed Dr. Cook with this.  Please send
responses to my address above.

Thanks in advance,
Mike Jensen

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Re: Recent Discovery of T. Jenkins' Diary (Titus

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2249  Monday, 11 November 2002

From:           Alexander Huang <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 8 Nov 2002 19:30:25 -0800
Subject:        Re: Recent Discovery of T. Jenkins' Diary (Titus
Andronicus)

1. It turned out that the student is no longer officially registered in
that undergraduate class. So I proceed to respond to your postings
without waiting for his response. If it was a hoax, it was NOT my
intention to spread it.

2. Regarding Professor Cox's and others' skepticism of various aspects
surrounding the original question, including my 'identity,' though
largely unrelated to the issue in question, I would like to offer my
explanations. I have moved to Harvard from Stanford, but I have signed
up as a listserv member while I was at Stanford and continued to use
that email address to read emails from SHAKSPER. It is simply a change
of institutional affiliation.

3. Since the student is no longer registered and I am assuming that it
is indeed a hoax, I apologize to those who are offended by my original
posting. It was not my intention to spread a possible hoax. The case is
closed. However, I want to communicate my reflections about how some
issues are handled by listserv members.

I did not endorse the initial "discovery." That was why I posted it to
the list AND asked the student for his source simultaneously. As
scholars, shouldn't our first reaction to any thing like this be
carefully seeking more information from different perspectives than
carelessly dismissing it?

I take the hostility from some listserv members personally, and I do not
think it appropriate to accuse someone sincerely asking for information.
I never intended to "start a bogus thread." I have been on the listserv
for a long time and have been a silent reader; I have benefited greatly
from some discussions. This was my first time posting a question to it,
and the listserv fails to meet my expectations as a place for rational
discussions.

There have been enough hoax, myths, and "silly questions" about some
literary figures, especially Shakespeare's life and Marlowe's death.
Some have been dismissed, but some did lead to important breakthroughs.
One of the purposes of SHAKSPER is to create a space for such
discussions and exchange of information. It was precisely that I, and
many other listserv members who posted questions, do not know enough
that we ask questions in hope to verify problematic info. No one can
read everything and be sure of every single piece of info.

Some times, the atmosphere on the listserv resembles that in a tavern
brawl (in many other email threads) and not that of rational debates in
the academia. May I humbly suggest that this be changed. Let no more of
the precious time of any of us be wasted on this.

Alexander Huang
Harvard University

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Altered Passages

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.2254  Monday, 11 November 2002

From:           Jack Lynch <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Sunday, 10 Nov 2002 11:22:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject:        Altered Passages

As I mentioned a few weeks ago, as part of the exhibition called "Making
Shakespeare" I've curated at the Rosenbach Museum & Library in
Philadelphia, I'm giving a public talk in December on 18th-century
alterations of Shakespeare, accompanied by actors performing scenes from
the plays.  It's aimed at layfolk, not scholars, and is meant to be
equal parts informative and fun.  I'm now looking for good passages, and
welcome suggestions.

I'll almost certainly contrast the conclusion of _Lear_ with Tate's
version, and I'm fishing for a good passage in the Dryden-Davenant
_Tempest_ to play against the original (though I should re-read _All for
Love_ as well).  Maybe something from Cibber's _Richard III_.  Otway's
"Oh Marius, Marius, wherefore art thou Marius?" should be good for a
laugh, and though they're not C18 adaptations, I'd like to do the "To be
or not to be, I theres the point" speech of Q1 and Twain's "To be or not
to be, that is the bare bodkin."

I'd also like to include a passage from the Bowdlers' _Family
Shakspeare_, and am looking for the most extreme expurgation of the lot
-- one that's very bawdy in the original and thoroughly cleaned up in
the revision.  I'll have to get to a library to see the Bowdler edition,
but for now I'm considering the dialogue between Gregory and Sampson in
_R&J_ ("Draw thy tool . . . My naked weapon is out"), or perhaps the
"country matters" bit from _Hamlet_.  Anything else come to mind? --
anything from _Measure for Measure_, maybe? -- _Othello_?  I suppose the
question is: what's Shakespeare's badiest scene?

All tips for promising scenes are welcome.  And anyone who'll be in
Philadelphia on Friday, 13 December, is welcome to stop by.

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