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Re: The Supernatural and Modernity
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1846  Friday, 6 September 2002

[1]     From:   R. A. Cantrell <
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        Date:   Thursday, 05 Sep 2002 12:17:04 -0500
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[2]     From:   Jan Pick <
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        Date:   Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 19:17:51 +0100
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[3]     From:   D Bloom <
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        Date:   Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 13:42:41 -0500
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[4]     From:   Robin Hamilton <
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        Date:   Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 20:43:59 +0100
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        Date:   Wednesday, 5 Sep 2001 15:02:19 -0500
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        Date:   Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 15:22:02 -0500
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        Date:   Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 23:10:32 +0100
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        Date:   Thursday, 05 Sep 2002 17:22:17 -0600
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[9]     From:   Markus Marti <
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        Date:   Friday, 06 Sep 2002 01:44:23 +0200
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[10]    From:   John W. Kennedy <
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        Date:   Thursday, 05 Sep 2002 20:39:08 -0400
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[11]    From:   Marcia Eppich-Harris <
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        Date:   Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 23:36:44 -0500
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[12]    From:   Gabriel Egan <
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        Date:   Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 20:39:37 +0100
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From:           R. A. Cantrell <
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Date:           Thursday, 05 Sep 2002 12:17:04 -0500
Subject: 13.1844 The Supernatural and Modernity
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1844 The Supernatural and Modernity

>Hamlet is a statement about the real world of politics, power and
>morality.

I thought it was / think it is / think it was a stageplay.

All the best,
R.A. Cantrell
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From:           Jan Pick <
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Date:           Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 19:17:51 +0100
Subject: 13.1844 The Supernatural and Modernity
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1844 The Supernatural and Modernity

I suggest you join a school trip to an historic house!  The first
question the students ask is - "does it have a ghost?"  Asked if they
really believe in such things, the answer is, "Yes!"  And not only them,
but also many of the adults accompanying them.  So, it was in
Shakespeare's day as it is now - the 'ignorant' masses believe in
ghosts, but today the 'ignorant' masses spend their leisure watching
Soaps, not as groundlings at a Shakespeare play!

Jan

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From:           D Bloom <
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Date:           Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 13:42:41 -0500
Subject: 13.1844 The Supernatural and Modernity
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1844 The Supernatural and Modernity

Sam Small writes,

>The idea of contact with the spirit world is very
>anti-Christian - which I'm sure Shakespeare was aware.

Well, um. It is not always easy to determine precisely what is
"anti-Christian."  The Norton edition of *Hamlet* has an excerpt from
the 1572 translation of Lewes Lavater who attributes to the papists the
belief that "those spirits which men sometime see and hear be either
good or bad angels, or else the souls of those which either live in
everlasting bliss, or purgatory, or in the place of damned persons."
(114)

The orthodoxy or heterodoxy of the belief that the souls of the dead may
be encountered strikes me as a much more complex matter than SS makes
out. But surely the belief that one may come in contact with those
spirits called angels (or devils) has never been regarded as
anti-Christian.

Cheers,
don

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From:           Robin Hamilton <
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Date:           Thursday, 5 Sep 2002 20:43:59 +0100
Subject: 13.1844 The Supernatural and Modernity
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1844 The Supernatural and Modernity

Sam Small writes (anent 'naturalising' the Ghost in _Hamlet_):

"The rest of the play is completely "natural".  A video tape of the
deceased father is not good enough because the Prince converses with him
"

-- how about an interactive computer program prepared by a pre-deceased
Elder Hamlet?

Robin Hamilton

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From:           L. Swilley <
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Date:           Wednesday, 5 Sep 2001 15:02:19 -0500
Subject:        The Supernatural and Modernity

Sam Small writes,

  "If the plays - certainly the serious tragedies 

 

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