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Re: C. S. Lewis on Punishment
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1932  Friday, 20 September 2002

[1]     From:   R. A. Cantrell <
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        Date:   Thursday, 19 Sep 2002 09:11:33 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1923 Re: C. S. Lewis on Punishment

[2]     From:   L. Swilley <
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        Date:   Thursday, 19 Sep 2001 12:36:11 -0500
        Subj:   Re: C. S. Lewis on Punishment - but briefly


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From:           R. A. Cantrell <
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Date:           Thursday, 19 Sep 2002 09:11:33 -0500
Subject: 13.1923 Re: C. S. Lewis on Punishment
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1923 Re: C. S. Lewis on Punishment

>Or if the Enron executive keeps his ill-gotten gains and does
>not turn state's evidence, any forgiveness he receives in the
>confessional does not count.

Thank God for final results. I was not sure these villains were guilty,
but now we will be spared the inconvenience of a trial and the remote
possibility that the Evil Ones will escape the wrath of a well
persuaded, highly indignant, utterly ignorant mob.

All the best,
R.A. Cantrell
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From:           L. Swilley <
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Date:           Thursday, 19 Sep 2001 12:36:11 -0500
Subject: 13.1923 Re: C. S. Lewis on Punishment - but briefly
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1923 Re: C. S. Lewis on Punishment - but briefly

M. Yawney writes,

>The Catholic church at least teaches that if one does not confess to
>civil authorities and accept secular consequences and (even more
>importantly) if one continues to enjoy the positive results of one's
>crime, these are indications that one's repentance are not
>sincere--which means you can confess to a priest until you are blue in
>the face, but the forgiveness gives will not apply since it is accepted
>in bad faith.

[Resitution is required for absolution, but not publicly, through "the
acceptance of [public ] secular consequences."  If the penitent must
place his reputation or his freedom in jeopardy in such acceptance - and
how could it be otherwise? - some other means of restitution is to be
sought and allowed. The State is not a *person* and has no *personal*
moment for the sinner whose sin may be illegal as well as immoral; his
private  restitution to persons offended is the moral need and condition
for absolution, not  his public surrender to the law and its
institutions. ]

       [L. Swilley]

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