2002

Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1818  Tuesday, 3 September 2002

[1]     From:   John W. Kennedy <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 09:49:14 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland

[2]     From:   Al Magary <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 09:20:02 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland

[3]     From:   Richard Nathan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 30 Aug 2002 02:13:44 +0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1810  Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland


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From:           John W. Kennedy <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 09:49:14 -0400
Subject: 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland

Mike Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

>Do you advocate returning to the Lyceum style of Shakespeare production?

And is there no via media but we must choose either the Lyceum style and
the style of the Nephelococcygian travelog that's been boring audiences
silly ever since Gordon Craig first got up on his hind legs?

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From:           Al Magary <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 09:20:02 -0700
Subject: 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland

Mike Jensen asked:

>I'm not sure I get Al Magary's point....
>Do you advocate returning to the Lyceum style of Shakespeare production?

No.  My complaint has to do with the anything-goes approach to
Shakespeare.  As he's definitely public-domain text and has been
performed longer than just about any playwright beyond Sophocles et al.,
the attitude of Sh.  producers (directors, designers, whoever is calling
the shots) seems to be along the lines of, Hey, we haven't tried wrecked
cars as sets for Julius Caesar!  There are many more plausible,
meaningful, enjoyable, and authentic stagings of JC possible between the
Lyceum and, eg, Ashland's.  (Thanks to Debra Murphy for her vivid
description of the puddle of red goo that features in the Macbeth at
Ashland.)

Along with the license that Sh. producers exercise comes the audience's
regrettable tendency to be uncritical (anything goes=anything is
acceptable), along the lines of, Gosh, that Laird Williamson sure knows
how to stage Julius Caesar!

Al Magary

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From:           Richard Nathan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 30 Aug 2002 02:13:44 +0000
Subject: 13.1810  Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1810  Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland

My wife and I saw three productions at Ashland this year:  Macbeth,
Titus Andronicus and Winter's Tale.

Our biggest problem with Macbeth was that the actor playing Macbeth was
a tenor who we have usually seen in comedy parts.  I'm sorry if this
offends any tenors out there, but I strongly believe Macbeth should be
played by a baritone.  OSF played elements of the Banquo's ghost scene
for comedy; there was one line of Lady Macbeth's in that scene that was
hilarious - I can't remember what it was though.  Can anyone remind me?
Macbeth dropped his cup of wine when he saw Banquo's ghost, and for a
moment I expected him to do a spit take.  It reminded me of my parody
version, "Scots On The Rocks" (which can be read at
http://www.shakespeare-parodies.com)

The "Titus Andronicus" was okay, but not memorable.  I can't comment on
it, because I've already forgotten most of it.

Our favorite was "Winter's Tale," - which was set in the 1950's and
1960's.  I thought the period worked.  It was charming.

We also saw the "Route 66" revue at the cabaret theater a few blocks
away.  It had nothing to do with Shakespeare or the Festival, but it was
a terrific show.

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Re: Shakespeare and Teenagers

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1817  Tuesday, 3 September 2002

[1]     From:   Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:25:29 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers

[2]     From:   Ira Zinman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 11:26:46 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers

[3]     From:   Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:58:07 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers

[4]     From:   Thomas Larque <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 17:38:18 +0100
        Subj:   Sam Small's "Passion in Pieces"

[5]     From:   Ted Dykstra <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 29 Aug 2002 13:12:08 EDT
        Subj:   Teenagers

[6]     From:   Hardy M. Cook <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Tuesday, September 03, 2002
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers


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From:           Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:25:29 -0400
Subject: 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers

Here's an anecdote to the contrary.  My 12 year daughter tells me she
loves Shakespeare.  She first watched the Trevor Nunn TN film with me
when she was six and liked that; then I took her to a production of MND
when she was eight.  She saw Shrew when she was ten.  And this summer I
took to her see Henry V.

She has read Lamb's Tales and, before that, several other books with the
plays retold as stories.  She reads books about Shakespeare like the
Shakespeare Scribbler.

She reads these all on her own and asks to go to productions.  Also, I
was at a conference recently, and it turned out that everyone there had
been involved in at least one theater production of a Shakespeare as a
child or teenager.

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From:           Ira Zinman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 11:26:46 EDT
Subject: 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers

In response to Sam's article, I think it fair to say that "forced to
study" any thing is an issue with any child, adolescent or adult.
However, for some very enlightening information on the value of exposure
of children to Shakespeare or other classics, I suggest going to
www.theurbanman.com.

Click on the Never-never-land article of Marc Zasada.  His conclusions
on exposure of the classics to children is the same effect as noted in
adults that Martin Lings points out in reference to Shakespeare
audiences.  It is very positive and uplifting.  Lings book ,THE SACRED
ART OF SHAKESPEARE, with a preface by HRH the Prince of Wales may
surprise many.  Prince Charles is apparently an avid Shakespeare reader.

Sincerely,
Ira

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From:           Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:58:07 -0700
Subject: 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers

Sam Small remarks,

>I now think that teenagers are rather frightening creatures.  Was
>I really one?

Have you ever ceased to be?  Your dismissal of the young as a group
seems to show the same sort of black and white logic ascribed by the
article to pre-pubescents, while the random abuse of your posts seems
adolescent in its recklessness.

Now, by the way, that you have scientific evidence that teenagers
understand love as different from lust, I assume that you'll be willing
to go back to teaching Romeo and Juliet?

Cheers,
Se


Re: RSC

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1816  Tuesday, 3 September 2002

[1]     From:   Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:12:57 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC

[2]     From:   Jan Pick <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 13:57:19 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC

[3]     From:   John Drakakis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 13:58:28 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC

[4]     From:   Matthew Baynham  <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 29 Aug 2002 09:32:56 +0100
        Subj:   RSC Standards

[5]     From:   Stuart Hampton-Reeves <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Monday, 02 Sep 2002 08:15:32 +0100
        Subj:   SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC

[6]     From:   Hardy M. Cook <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Tuesday, September 03, 2002
        Subj:   SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC


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From:           Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:12:57 -0400
Subject: 13.1811 Re: RSC
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC

Mr. Hawkes,

Would you say more about how the production was "gratuitously
anti-American"?

Thank you.

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From:           Jan Pick <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 13:57:19 +0100
Subject: 13.1811 Re: RSC
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC

I voted with my feet and stayed away from this one, I was so angry with
Hodge for disdaining bringing his massive talent to the Midland
Stratford-going plebs! I thought they did it in 'American' accents so
that the director


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