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Re: Time Travel
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0311  Wednesday, 19 February 2003

[1]     From:   Thomas Larque <
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        Date:   Monday, 17 Feb 2003 14:42:02 -0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0306 Time Travel

[2]     From:   Al Magary <
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        Date:   Monday, 17 Feb 2003 16:06:45 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0306 Time Trave

[3]     From:   Elliott H. Stone <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 18 Feb 2003 22:29:49 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0306 Time Travel


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From:           Thomas Larque <
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Date:           Monday, 17 Feb 2003 14:42:02 -0000
Subject: 14.0306 Time Travel
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0306 Time Travel

>That was essentially my answer when I first began to think about this
>game years ago, then I realized it would be better to view *Cardinio*,
>*Love's Labour's Won*, or any of the lost plays of the era, especially
>if I could bring a camcorder.  It would also be good to visit the time
>of Marlowe's demise, or any of Shakespeare's writing sessions, just to
>silence silly people.  Alas, I have lost H. G. Wells's phone number.

I doubt silly people of this kind would be so easily silenced by
evidence of any kind.  No doubt a conspiracy theory would promptly arise
suggesting that Marlowe's "killers" actually took the opportunity to
finish off a certain time-travelling scholar who conveniently appeared
in the room moments before they needed a dead body, and that Marlowe
himself was consequently saved to write Shakespeare's plays and return
to the present disguised as Mike Jensen.  The more Mike denied that this
was the case, the more such people would be convinced that such denials
were a part of the obvious cover-up.  Photographs of Jensen taken after
his return, showing the same person as the one who left, would be
dismissed as fakes, and learned treatises would be written on the skills
of Elizabethan disguise artists (based, quite possibly, on the recorded
successes of such people as Edgar in 'King Lear' - never mind that those
were fictions), which - together with the work of modern plastic
surgeons - could make Marlowe look just like Mike Jensen.  Rival
articles would appear containing complex measurements proving that Mike
Jensen's head was really that of Queen Elizabeth attached upside down,
an intentional clue by the conspirators to his non-existence.

Like any Shakespearean, I would love to see some of the original
performances of Shakespeare's plays.  I wonder, however, whether we
might on some levels end up being a little disappointed by what we saw,
after so much discussion and anticipation.  I imagine, however, that the
sense of wonder and discovery would overcome all sorts of horror at any
hypothetically awful acting.

Thomas Larque.
"Shakespeare and His Critics"
http://shakespearean.org.uk

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From:           Al Magary <
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Date:           Monday, 17 Feb 2003 16:06:45 -0800
Subject: 14.0306 Time Travel
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0306 Time Travel

Mike Jensen can go looking for all of Shakespeare's MSS but with
invisible-man powers myself, I'd have grander plans:  travel back to
late 1421, make my way to the nursery of Henry V's young heir, Henry of
Windsor, and switch babies in the cradle--almost any other infant would
do.  That way Sh. could have produced at least one more comedy about
mistaken identities instead of all the bloody histories.

Al Magary

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From:           Elliott H. Stone <
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Date:           Tuesday, 18 Feb 2003 22:29:49 EST
Subject: 14.0306 Time Travel
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0306 Time Travel

Were Hemminge and Condole the editors of the First Folio? It was my
understanding that most scholars no longer accepted this premise as
correct.  The First Folio says that they were the editors but this quite
clearly was written by Ben Jonson and his fingerprints certainly are all
over the prefatory portion of the First Folio. I have not, however,
heard a satisfactory explanation as to why Jonson would want to hide the
fact that he was the editor? The plays as set out in the Folio do not
appear to be the texts that were used in the playhouse. If they were
that would have been strong evidence that they were in the possession of
these two actors. Jonson, of course, had the experience of being an
editor since he had performed the same task for his own works. I have
always read about the difficulty the editors of the First Folio had in
obtaining the rights from the various publishers of the earlier Quartos.
I have not seen any of the documentary evidence of the transfers of
these rights. Where can one find them?

Best,
Elliott H. Stone

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