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Re: Tilney and Heminges
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0316  Wednesday, 19 February 2003

[1]     From:   Bill Lloyd <
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        Date:   Monday, 17 Feb 2003 12:20:09 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0305 Tilney and Heminges

[2]     From:   Dave Kathman <
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        Date:   Monday, 17 Feb 2003 12:52:07 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0305 Tilney and Heminges


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From:           Bill Lloyd <
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Date:           Monday, 17 Feb 2003 12:20:09 EST
Subject: 14.0305 Tilney and Heminges
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0305 Tilney and Heminges

Hi--

In response to Steve Roth's query...I believe it must be not Edmond
Tyllney but Sir Henry Herbert he's thinking of. See 'The Control &
Censorship of Caroline Drama: The Records of Sir Henry Herbert, Master
of the Revels 1623-73', N. W. Bawcutt, ed. (Oxford, 1996), p. 142.

"For the king's players. An olde playe called Winter's Tale, formerly
allowed of by Sir George Bucke, and likewyse by mee on Mr. Hemmings his
worde that there was nothing profane added or reformed, thogh the
allowed booke was missinge; and therefore I returned it without a fee,
this 19 of August, 1623."

It's not known where the allowed book went. Possibly it was destroyed in
the Globe fire; or maybe it went missing when it was sent out for
transcription when the First Folio was being prepared.

Regards,
Bill Lloyd

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From:           Dave Kathman <
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Date:           Monday, 17 Feb 2003 12:52:07 -0600
Subject: 14.0305 Tilney and Heminges
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0305 Tilney and Heminges

Steve Roth wrote:

>I read a reference recently that I can't remember exactly or find, and
>wonder if anyone can provide pointers.
>
>At one point Tilney (I think) approved a Chamberlain's script (perhaps a
>revision) on the good word of John Heminges, without reading it.
>
>Does anyone remember this? Any citations to hand?

You might be thinking of the following note from Sir Henry Herbert's
(now lost) office book.  It doesn't involved Tilney, but it does
involved Tilney's successor George Buc:

"For the king's players. An olde playe called Winter's Tale, formerly
allowed of by Sir George Bucke, and likewyse by mee on Mr. Hemmings his
worde that there was nothing profane added or reformed, thogh the
allowed booke was missinge; and therefore I returned it without a fee,
this 19 of August, 1623."

This quotation is from N. W. Bawcutt, ed., *The Control and Censorship
of Caroline Drama: The Records of Sir Henry Herbert, Master of the
Revels, 1623-73* (1996), p. 142.

Dave Kathman

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