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Re: Reviews
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0395  Thursday, 27 February 2003

[1]     From:   Charles Weinstein <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 08:38:12 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0381 Re: Reviews

[2]     From:   Terence Hawkes <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 09:05:42 -0500
        Subj:   SHK 14.0360 Re: Reviews

[3]     From:   Michael B. Luskin <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 10:00:29 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0381 Re: Reviews

[4]     From:   Graham Hall <
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        Date:   Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 09:50:23 +0000
        Subj:   Sermon on the boards


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From:           Charles Weinstein <
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Date:           Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 08:38:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 14.0381 Re: Reviews
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0381 Re: Reviews

1. With the exception of Tynan, none of the reviewers I mentioned and
admire are newspaper critics.

2. Look up Brustein's review of the Michael Elliott-Laurence Olivier
Lear, collected in his Who Needs Theatre? (1987).  In three packed
pages, Brustein says more of value (and says it better) than Leggatt,
Lusardi-Schlueter and many others say at considerably greater length.  I
will go further:  Brustein says all that needs to be said.  This sadly
disastrous teleproduction is simply not a canonical masterpiece
productive of endlessly interesting academic discourse.

3. Professors of English Literature are not drama critics, or movie
critics either, as much as they may want to be:  they lack the
equipment.

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From:           Terence Hawkes <
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Date:           Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 09:05:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Reviews
Comment:        SHK 14.0360 Re: Reviews

Ted Dykstra, 'still trying to wrestle . . .  with the purpose of
criticism' nevertheless feels able to represent it as entirely parasitic
upon art.  Indeed, he doesn't shrink from the confident pronouncement
that 'no critic has ever come close to giving us what the artists they
criticize have'.

The harsh clanking of false distinctions is unmistakeable.  All
'creative' writers are also critics, if only of their own material. In
fact, one major poet and dramatist of the 19th century concluded that
'Without the critical faculty, there is no artistic creation at all,
worthy of the name'. He even went so far as to claim that '. . .
criticism demands infinitely more cultivation than creation does.' How
true.  If you want to wrestle, get a grip.

T. Hawkes

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From:           Michael B. Luskin <
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Date:           Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 10:00:29 EST
Subject: 14.0381 Re: Reviews
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0381 Re: Reviews

I don't often post, I am an amateur, I just love to read Shakespeare and
see a play at best two or three a year, often by high school troupes.
And belong to a group that reads a Shakespeare play every month and gets
together to discuss it.

I think you are forgetting the most important thing about criticism: it
is education.  I have learned an enormous amount from reading Goddard,
Elliot, Johnson, Helen Vendler, and dozens of others.  Even Harold
Bloom, when he is not selling Harold Bloom, has something to offer.  It
is unusual to find a review or a critical text that does not teach
something, or give me and others of my group things to think about and
to talk about.

This list is basically criticism.

I LIKE criticism that is written by "academics," whatever that word
happens to mean.  And I LIKE criticism written by the Pauline Kaels of
the world. And whoever else you might mention.

Michael B. Luskin

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From:           Graham Hall <
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Date:           Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 09:50:23 +0000
Subject:        Sermon on the boards

"Ain't it just like the night to play tricks when you're trying t'be so
quiet......."

Having decided to withdraw from, what in my opinion had become, the
sterile debate about "professional" and "academic" reviewers, I open my
newly arrived copy of "Literary Review" (March 2003) and turn to "From
the Pulpit". One D J Taylor (a self-professed "hack") holds the
editorial floor this edition.

He seems to have been monitoring the SHAKSPER list for he is considering
the merits of "professional" and "academic" reviewers. He considers the
position of an editor requiring a review;

"Which do you choose? Why the hack, who will do the job reliably and
competently and not give himself airs. I never knew a journeyman
book-reviewer who couldn't give the reader a better idea of what a novel
was about and whether one ought to read it than Professor Y of the
University of North Staffordshire."

He would not place the request with " a moonlighting academic looking to
supplement his salary by a bit of up-market slumming."

I am ferociously polishing my goggles in order to read all the more
clearly the reviews he gets for his forthcoming centenary life of
Orwell! I wonder if D J Taylor is the nom d'plume of anyone known to us.

Best,
Graham Hall

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