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Re: Models
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0523  Tuesday, 18 March 2003

[1]     From:   Martin Steward <
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        Date:   Monday, 17 Mar 2003 17:04:05 -0000
        Subj:   SHK 14.0518 Models

[2]     From:   John W. Kennedy <
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        Date:   Monday, 17 Mar 2003 12:13:01 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0518 Models

[3]     From:   David Crosby <
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        Date:   Monday, 17 Mar 2003 11:58:16 -0600
        Subj:   RE: SHK 14.0518 Models

[4]     From:   Brian Willis <
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        Date:   Monday, 17 Mar 2003 11:12:08 -0800 (PST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0518 Models

[5]     From:   Stuart Manger <
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        Date:   Monday, 17 Mar 2003 23:52:49 -0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0518 Models


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From:           Martin Steward <
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Date:           Monday, 17 Mar 2003 17:04:05 -0000
Subject: Models
Comment:        SHK 14.0518 Models

"... Professor Lindley did not, in fact, write a book about any
theatrical productions that swam into his ken:  he wrote a book about
productions of Shakespeare.  For all their professed freedom from
aesthetic and canonical standards, these would-be cultural neutrons are
often terribly anxious to hitch their wagons to work of established
excellence and authority."

Of course, any academic scholar could reliably inform Mr. Weinstein that
this has nothing to do with aesthetic "standards" and everything to do
with money & patronage. (But then, so did Shakespeare's - and Jonson's,
Massinger's, Chapman's... - plays.)

martin

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From:           John W. Kennedy <
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Date:           Monday, 17 Mar 2003 12:13:01 -0500
Subject: 14.0518 Models
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0518 Models

"It's a relief to get back [to Oxford] and find you here -- and all this
going on as it used to do. Here's where the real things are done,
Harriet -- if only those bunglers out there will keep quiet and let it
go on. God! how I loathe haste and violence and all that ghastly,
slippery cleverness. Unsound, unscholarly, insincere -- nothing but
propaganda and special pleading and 'what do we get out of this' No
time, no peace, no silence; nothing but conferences and newspapers and
public speeches till one can't hear one's self think. ...If only one
could root one's self in here among the grass and stones and do
something worth doing, even if it was only restoring a lost breathing
for the love of the job and nothing else."

   -- Dorothy L. Sayers, "Gaudy Night"

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From:           David Crosby <
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Date:           Monday, 17 Mar 2003 11:58:16 -0600
Subject: 14.0518 Models
Comment:        RE: SHK 14.0518 Models

Charles Weinstein wrote:

>These issues
>deserve a thread of their own.  I would like to inaugurate it by noting
>that Professor Lindley did not, in fact, write a book about any
>theatrical productions that swam into his ken:  he wrote a book about
>productions of Shakespeare.

Shhhh! No point in responding.

David Crosby

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From:           Brian Willis <
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Date:           Monday, 17 Mar 2003 11:12:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 14.0518 Models
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0518 Models

Charles,

Who are we supposed to trust regarding these models of the very best
that culture has to offer?

Who holds the key to this cultural wisdom that you profess to have?

Why do you continue to recite your mantra about mediocrity? Are you
trying to convince us, or more likely yourself, about its importance?

What have you done to contribute to academics or to performance? If they
exist, are they themselves above the reproach of mediocrity?

Brian Willis

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From:           Stuart Manger <
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Date:           Monday, 17 Mar 2003 23:52:49 -0000
Subject: 14.0518 Models
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0518 Models

I think that Charles Weinstein's latest unloading of bile,
self-righteousness, and his ad hominem attack on one of UK's most
distinguished Shakespearian scholars is simply outrageous and unworthy
of the Shakespeare Conference.

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