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Re: By Jove!
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0611  Monday, 31 March 2003

[1]     From:   R. A. Cantrell <
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        Date:   Friday, 28 Mar 2003 07:05:15 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0602 Re: By Jove!

[2]     From:   Dana Shilling <
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        Date:   Friday, 28 Mar 2003 08:25:55 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0602 Re: By Jove!

[3]     From:   Graham Hall <
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        Date:   Friday, 28 Mar 2003 14:52:50 +0000
        Subj:   I say! By Jove!

[4]     From:   Russell MacKenzie Fehr <
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        Date:   Friday, 28 Mar 2003 20:44:49 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0588 By Jove!


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From:           R. A. Cantrell <
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Date:           Friday, 28 Mar 2003 07:05:15 -0600
Subject: 14.0602 Re: By Jove!
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0602 Re: By Jove!

>By Joe is a corruption of by Jehovah which was regarded blasphemy

I assume you meant By Jove (perhaps I am mistaken). In some Tudor era
Latin Bibles the accustomed "Jehovah" was supplanted by the more
classically informed "Jove." Does this go back to the "Inkhorn"
controversies?

All the best,
R.A. Cantrell
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From:           Dana Shilling <
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Date:           Friday, 28 Mar 2003 08:25:55 -0500
Subject: 14.0602 Re: By Jove!
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0602 Re: By Jove!

But isn't Malvolio's complacent reference to "Jove and my stars" the
functional equivalent? I'm sure we're meant to think of Malvolio as
speaking largely in cliches, so it must have been current by then.

Dana Shilling

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From:           Graham Hall <
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Date:           Friday, 28 Mar 2003 14:52:50 +0000
Subject:        I say! By Jove!

"By Jove" had a brief revival through Biggles (circa 1930 - 60's). The
biographer of W E Johns  used it in her biography title.

Chocks away!

Yours,
Graham Hall

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From:           Russell MacKenzie Fehr <
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Date:           Friday, 28 Mar 2003 20:44:49 EST
Subject: 14.0588 By Jove!
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0588 By Jove!

One suggestion is that the phrase "By Jove" comes from students of the
elite schools in the late 19th century. If they had any reading of the
classics, they would have known "Jove", which is a variant of the god
Jupiter 's (himself having been Zeus to the Greeks) name. Saying "By
Jove" is, then, a milder form of saying "My God".

Russell MacKenzie Fehr

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