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Re: God Save the Queen
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0655  Friday, 4 April 2003

[1]     From:   Edward Brown <
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        Date:   Thursday, 3 Apr 2003 10:07:16 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0643 Re: God Save the Queen

[2]     From:   Nancy Charlton <
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        Date:   Thursday, 03 Apr 2003 14:49:50 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0643 Re: God Save the Queen

[3]     From:   Matthew Baynham <
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        Date:   Friday, 4 Apr 2003 09:23:13 +0100
        Subj:   God save the queen

[4]     From:   Terence Hawkes <
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        Date:   Friday, 4 Apr 2003 04:18:02 -0500
        Subj:   SHK 14.0643 Re: God Save the Queen


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From:           Edward Brown <
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Date:           Thursday, 3 Apr 2003 10:07:16 EST
Subject: 14.0643 Re: God Save the Queen
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0643 Re: God Save the Queen

It's chicken and eggs, The King and Parliament in the misty past, and
Coke was a damn good propagandist.

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From:           Nancy Charlton <
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Date:           Thursday, 03 Apr 2003 14:49:50 -0800
Subject: 14.0643 Re: God Save the Queen
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0643 Re: God Save the Queen

Since I seem to have the antic disposition fully ON today, I'll give you
an alternate version of the British/English/UK's national anthem, but
you have to supply the words for the last line:

The king he stayed out late,
He stayed out very late.
He was the King.
The queen she paced the floor,
The queen was very sore.
She me-et hi-im at the door [fermata and rest],
___ ____ ___ ____!

Irreverently,
Nancy Charlton

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From:           Matthew Baynham <
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Date:           Friday, 4 Apr 2003 09:23:13 +0100
Subject:        God save the queen

Further to Carol Morley on Bogdanov's use of patriotic music. In his
Macbeth for Channel 4, Bogdanov accompanies Malcolm's successful
invasion of Scotland with Parry's Jerusalem, suggesting, I think, that
Malcolm is an English puppet.

Matthew Baynham

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From:           Terence Hawkes <
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Date:           Friday, 4 Apr 2003 04:18:02 -0500
Subject: Re: God Save the Queen
Comment:        SHK 14.0643 Re: God Save the Queen

We need not split hairs. Either the assent of the monarch is necessary
in order for British parliamentary Bills to become law, or it is not.
Since it is, then parliament is not 'sovereign' and that's an end to the
matter. The date when the 'royal assent' was last witheld is irrelevant.
It may be witheld at any time. Indeed, as a means of influencing policy,
unrecorded or barely intimated threats to withold it are always
available to be deployed at the monarch's discretion . This office is of
course normally open only to succession by birth and blood. Needless to
say, a deep-seated disdain for the ballot-box has never inhibited the
British from urging democracy on others, often by force of arms.

T. Hawkes

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