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Re: The Date of Richard II
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0806  Monday, 28 April 2003

[1]     From:   Roger Parisious <
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        Date:   Friday, 25 Apr 2003 12:24:22 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0788 Re: The Date of Richard II

[2]     From:   Edward Brown <
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        Date:   Saturday, 26 Apr 2003 16:28:30 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0788 Re: The Date of Richard II


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From:           Roger Parisious <
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Date:           Friday, 25 Apr 2003 12:24:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 14.0788 Re: The Date of Richard II
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0788 Re: The Date of Richard II

Gabriel Egan <
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>Roger Parisious wrote
>
>>The Shakespeare Richard II text, the only one
>>which the Lord Chamberlain's Men are on record
>>as holding, suffered from major political
>>deletions.
>
> If this refers to the fact that the abdication scene
>is first printed in
>the fourth quarto, one should in fairness point out
>the argument that
>the scene was a subsequent addition, not a deletion
>at all. That's the
>view in David M. Bergeron's "The Deposition Scene in
>Richard II."
>Renaissance Papers (1974): 31-37.

Thanks for the reference, which I, unfortunately, have no way of
obtaining in a remote Cumberlands village, and no immediate recollection
of having read. If Bergeron means a new scene which serves as a
substitute for a highly offensive and accordingly deleted abdication
scene, it is easy to go along with that as the metrical material appears
more mature in this section than most of the play, and fits easier into
Vickers time slot than the great body of the text. It would also
demonstrate that the players were being somewhat disingenuous about what
part they - and Shakespeare-played in the affair.

On the other hand, if, as Mr. Egan seems to imply, Bergeron is claiming
that there was no abdication scene in the original, I would say this is,
on the existing structure of the show, near
impossible. Its absence sticks out like a red flag in the earlier
quartos. Still may be Mr. Egan can convince us the current scene is
late. Why not?

Roger Parisious

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From:           Edward Brown <
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Date:           Saturday, 26 Apr 2003 16:28:30 EDT
Subject: 14.0788 Re: The Date of Richard II
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0788 Re: The Date of Richard II

How can one believe the abdication scene a later addition? It's central
to the play.

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