2003

Re: Geraldo Richard III in Iraq

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0707  Thursday, 10 April 2003

From:           Kristen McDermott <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 9 Apr 2003 09:13:17 EDT
Subject: 14.0699 Re: Geraldo Richard III in Iraq
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0699 Re: Geraldo Richard III in Iraq

Marjorie Garber's "Symptoms of Culture" (Routledge, 2000) returns
repeatedly to examples of Shakespeare quoted out of context,
particularly in politics.  A wonderful book.

-- Kristen McDermott
Central Michigan University

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Re: Critical Encounters of the Negative Kind

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0706  Thursday, 10 April 2003

From:           Karyn White <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 10 Apr 2003 10:31:31 +0900
Subject: 14.0697 Re: Critical Encounters of the Negative Kind
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0697 Re: Critical Encounters of the Negative Kind

I find that I must concur with Mr. Kennedy.  C. S. Lewis' "An Experiment
in Criticism" is highly informative, and it has proven useful to me in
making distinctions between story and Story, or between story and Myth,
if you prefer.  It helped to inform the background from which I wrote my
Master's thesis on "Romeo and Juliet," incidentally arguing that Juliet
is the heroine of the play, with Romeo as her "supporting actor," so to
speak.  (I realize that that statement should probably go in a different
thread; I apologize.)

Karyn White

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Re: Love's Labour's Wonne

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0704  Thursday, 10 April 2003

[1]     From:   Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 09 Apr 2003 16:01:40 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0690 Re: Love's Labour's Wonne

[2]     From:   Bob Grumman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 9 Apr 2003 16:47:27 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0690 Re: Love's Labour's Wonne


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From:           Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 09 Apr 2003 16:01:40 -0400
Subject: 14.0690 Re: Love's Labour's Wonne
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0690 Re: Love's Labour's Wonne

The 1603 bookseller's inventory is not absolutely conclusive that LLW
was not The Shrew, although I do not believe it was.  The Shrew play
listed in that inventory is "The Taming of A Shrew", which would seem to
be the so-called ur-Shrew.

 But if "A Shrew" is a pirated and inaccurate version of Shakespeare's
comedy, which is one of the alternative hypotheses which many scholars
are coming to believe, it is just a bad quarto of "The Shrew, so WS's
work; and LLW is not likely to have been the same play under a different
name.  Also, it is probable that "The Shrew" was written before LLL, so
it unlikely to be LLW (but this may be reasoning backwards from the
assumption that LLW was a sequel to LLL).  Kittredge is emphatic that
"surely .. [The Shrew] cannot be the mysterious Loves Labour's Won"
(Kittredge's Complete Works p. 325 [1936 ed.]).  He suggests that it was
AW/EW, but I think this is also unlikely, especially as it appears that
AW/EW was almost certainly written after 1598.

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From:           Bob Grumman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 9 Apr 2003 16:47:27 -0400
Subject: 14.0690 Re: Love's Labour's Wonne
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0690 Re: Love's Labour's Wonne

>[the] suggestion that the mysterious play Love's Labor's Won
>mentioned by Meres refers to The Shrew was disproved

not disproved--shown to be unlikely

>when
>a booklist of August 1603 for the stationer Christopher Hunt
>was discovered in 1953 by S. Pottesman listing:
>'Marchant Of Vennis, Taming Of A Shrew, Loves Labor
>Lost, Loves Labor Won.'  See T.W. Baldwin, Shakspere's
>'Love's Labor's Won': new evidence from the account
>books of an Elizabethan bookseller. (Carbondale, Ill.:
>Southern Illinois Univ. Pr., 1957) vii, 11-15, 30-31.
>
>Sincerely,
>Stephen Miller

Yeah, I remember this now.  I conveniently forgot it when suggesting
Shrew was Loves Labours Wonne.  I still think it's the best candidate.
The bookseller's Shrew is *A* Shrew.  Perhaps Shakespeare's Shrew was
originally titled Loves Labours Wonne to distinguish it from *A* Shrew,
whether the latter was by Shakespeare or not.

I know, very strained.  But so are all the other arguments for other
plays as Loves Labours Wonne--and for a lost play as Loves Labours
Wonne.

--Bob G.

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Shakespeare Concert

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0705  Thursday, 10 April 2003

From:           Thomas Johnstone <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 9 Apr 2003 17:10:07 -0400
Subject:        Shakespeare Concert

Hello,

In the e-mail offering 25% off for tickets prices to the 5/9 & 10
concerts of "The Power of Shakespeare" at BAM (Brooklyn Academy of
Music) I made an error using the code for 50% instead of 25% off.  Now
that the error is made it will be honored.

Mention Source Code TS4 for 50% off ticket prices of $20.00, $35.00 or
$55.00. Call BAM Ticket Services at 718-636-4100 to order.

Regards,

Thomas Johnstone
Marketing Assistant
Brooklyn Philharmonic
One Hanson Place, Suite 1806
Brooklyn, NY 11243
718.622.5855, 718.622.3774 Fax
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Re: God Save the Queen

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0703  Thursday, 10 April 2003

[1]     From:   Martin Steward <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 9 Apr 2003 17:18:22 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0692 Re: God Save the Queen

[2]     From:   Gabriel Egan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 9 Apr 2003 12:13:01 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0684 Re: God Save the Queen


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From:           Martin Steward <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 9 Apr 2003 17:18:22 +0100
Subject: 14.0692 Re: God Save the Queen
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0692 Re: God Save the Queen

"Terence Hawkes quotes a large extract from Statutory Instrument 1988
No.  1082.  Clearly this is just a legal form, like an oath of office."

Sea Lawrence

Indeed - a legal form prescribed by statute (Royal Assent Act 1967).

m

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From:           Gabriel Egan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 9 Apr 2003 12:13:01 +0100
Subject: 14.0684 Re: God Save the Queen
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0684 Re: God Save the Queen

Sear Lawrence

>The governor-general at the time was merely enforcing
>the principle of parliamentary democracy.

A crown-enforced democracy is a contradiction in terms.

Gabriel Egan

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