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Re: Hirsh and "To Be"
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0828  Thursday, 1 May 2003

[1]     From:   Frank Whigham <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 09:30:20 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"

[2]     From:   R. A. Cantrell <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 10:25:00 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"

[3]     From:   Bill Arnold <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 08:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0804 Hirsh and "To Be"

[4]     From:   John W. Kennedy <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 11:52:01 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"

[5]     From:   Terence Hawkes <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 12:55:54 -0400
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[6]     From:   C. David Frankel <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 20:54:18 -0400
        Subj:   RE: SHK 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"


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From:           Frank Whigham <
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Date:           Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 09:30:20 -0500
Subject: 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"

>we know
>the name of the first person to read without moving his lips,
>Augustine.

Actually, I think it was St. Jerome, whom Augustine witnessed at this
miraculous work.

Frank Whigham

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From:           R. A. Cantrell <
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Date:           Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 10:25:00 -0500
Subject: 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"

>One thing I don't think is subtle, though. Hamlet does not overhear
>Claudius's soliloquy. He enters after it's over.

That would be scanned Claudius continues after Hamlet's "Now I would do
it pat . . ." I see no specific indication that Hamlet has not heard his
uncle's prayer. I still maintain that Prince Hamlet watches the whole
play, excepting the scenes he plays, with the audience.

All the best,
R.A. Cantrell

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From:           Bill Arnold <
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Date:           Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 08:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 14.0804 Hirsh and "To Be"
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0804 Hirsh and "To Be"

Marcia Eppich-Harris writes, "I am writing because I am puzzled. Have
you read "Shakespeare and the History of Soliloquies" (1997) or "The 'To
Be or Not to Be' Scene and the Conventions of Shakespearean Drama"
(1981) both by James Hirsh? I'm writing a paper on the "To be" soliloquy
and ran across these two essays. I must say, I have always been a bit
puzzled by that speech in general, so that's why I decided to write
about it. In reading these two articles, I have come to the conclusion
that all conventional wisdom on this speech is if not wrong, then sort
of naive, and I'm wondering if you could help me out a bit with this."

Grebanier speaks exhaustively on this point, and maybe James Hirsh had
read Grebanier?

Anyway, it would be worth all SHAKSPEReans time to read Grebanier's
thorough discussion on the 'To Be or Not to Be' Scene.

Bill Arnold
http://www.cwru.edu/affil/edis/scholars/arnold.htm

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Date:           Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 11:52:01 -0400
Subject: 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"

Claude Caspar <
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>George Steiner tells us that we know
>the name of the first person to read without moving his lips, Augustine.

A curious distortion.  Augustine _reports_ that Ambrose did so.

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From:           Terence Hawkes <
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Date:           Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 12:55:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Hirsh and "To Be"
Comment:        SHK 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"

David Bishop writes,

"What speaking a soliloquy "directly" to the audience amounts to is a
complicated question. "

Not really. It's a convention frequently deployed -without puzzlement-
in comedy programmes and  advertisements both in the cinema and on
television.  Much more complicated are those peculiar theatrical moments
known as the 'curtain call'. Often the most carefully rehearsed and (at
Stratford) competently acted parts of the production, they usually
afford more insight, not to say simple pleasure, than the performance
itself.  An entire evening devoted to curtain calls (without the
preceding plays) features, I understand, in the long-term planning of
the Royal Shakespeare Company.

T. Hawkes

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From:           C. David Frankel <
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Date:           Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 20:54:18 -0400
Subject: 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"
Comment:        RE: SHK 14.0818 Re: Hirsh and "To Be"

Of course, it probably goes without saying that every line in a play is
addressed to the audience.

cdf

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