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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.2196  Tuesday, 18 November 2003

[1]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Friday, 14 Nov 2003 12:02:11 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.2181 Quiz Question

[2]     From:   Tom Pendleton <
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        Date:   Friday, 14 Nov 2003 14:53:43 -0500
        Subj:   RE: SHK 14.2168 Quiz Question

[3]     From:   Susan St. John <
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        Date:   Friday, 14 Nov 2003 22:38:10 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.2181 Quiz Question

[4]     From:   Rolland Banker <
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        Date:   Sunday, 16 Nov 2003 23:54:58 -0800 (PST)
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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Friday, 14 Nov 2003 12:02:11 -0500
Subject: 14.2181 Quiz Question
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.2181 Quiz Question

>references to 'choler' in Shakespeare
>are almost certainly not references to cholesterol

Of course not.  But the two words have the same root.  They both refer
to yellow bile.

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From:           Tom Pendleton <
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Date:           Friday, 14 Nov 2003 14:53:43 -0500
Subject: 14.2168 Quiz Question
Comment:        RE: SHK 14.2168 Quiz Question

Sir Andrew Aguecheek notes that he is "a great eater of beef" and fears
"that does harm to my wit" (1.3.85-86).  Presumably, rare to medium
rare, since, as Petruchio tells Kate, "overroasted flesh" engenders
choler (4.1.172-75)rather than stupidity. According to Thersites, the
"beef-witted" Ajax (2.1.13) would seem to share Sir Andrew's malady.

Tom Pendleton

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From:           Susan St. John <
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Date:           Friday, 14 Nov 2003 22:38:10 -0700
Subject: 14.2181 Quiz Question
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.2181 Quiz Question

Margaret Hopkins points out, after an epidemic of mad cow disease, that

>our Shakespeare seemed to know what he was talking about.

Dickens as well!  The orphanage in which Oliver Twist grew up seemed to
based on the theory that meat was not appropriate for young boys - it
would make them act up and be too aggressive!  I believe that the
funeral director who adopted Oliver was of the same mind.

And I recall an episode of "The Little Rascals" where they were in an
orphanage eating mush for much the same reason.

So it seems to me that the idea of red meat as a cause of choler
orunpleasant behavior was a very prevalent school of thought.

Susan.

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From:           Rolland Banker <
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Date:           Sunday, 16 Nov 2003 23:54:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject:        Quiz Question

Shucks!  I missed the buzzer; gotta be quick on this enthusiastic list,
but for sure no one will submit the unspeakable lines from:

Don Faljohn in the lost Cardenio Play(in my family's possession; we do
whatever we want with it and always will; nah nah nah nah nah!), Act
3.2.121

Faljohn:
He that eateth red meat getteth weak feet
And a choler to boot, put that in's mind
And ne'r look again to this rhyme of mine.

Lucrescendo:
Meats o'er heat tis mete for my feat o rhyme
But Ducats are better than thy rheumy whine
Why dost thou not come up and see
Me some

Don Faljohn:
        Time!!
I have ne'r the wit or time for such gross
Action! Your dowry was 'greed, witless that
I am, lackbrained too, it is too much
I must now pay for a wench like you. Zounds!

(It goes on something like that for a quite awhile. My kids have
scribbled on the text and in fact added their own crazy words in crayon
from time to time. Sorry!)

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