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Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.2202  Wednesday, 19 November 2003

[1]     From:   Dana Wilson <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 18 Nov 2003 10:31:24 -0800 (PST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.2194 Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia

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        Date:   Tuesday, 18 Nov 2003 15:33:20 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.2194 Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia

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        Date:   Tuesday, 18 Nov 2003 17:07:34 -0800 (PST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.2194 Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia


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Date:           Tuesday, 18 Nov 2003 10:31:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 14.2194 Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.2194 Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia

>Bonham Carter said. The line is "Where is the
>beautious maiestie." I was
>so startled I actually went to the trouble of
>looking it up to see if my
>memory might have been mistook.

Don,

I think this is a tacky point.  If I ask you "Where is X?", there is a
strong presumption that I can't see X.  If I happen to be staring you
down at the time, you can pretty well conclude, I don't identify you
with X.

My point was that HPB could have played this scene as a prelude to the
mad scene and stared off into the vacant space as if she knew Gert to be
queen, and could not see the queen, and I feel this would be a valid
reading of part based on the imaginated flowers of the mad scene (which
incidentally are ghosts the audience can't see as opposed to the ghost
of Hamlet's father which they can see.)

D-

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Date:           Tuesday, 18 Nov 2003 15:33:20 -0500
Subject: 14.2194 Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.2194 Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia

As a high school teacher, I have watched Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia
numerous times and I believe she does the correct line.

Bob Linn

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Date:           Tuesday, 18 Nov 2003 17:07:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 14.2194 Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.2194 Helena Bonham Carter's Ophelia

>The Ragner Lyth (Swedish) film of Hamlet (c. 1970)
>makes this generation
>conflict a central image of the production.

Ed,

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

I remember admiring Kate Winslet's Ophelia for the way she made faces
behind Polonius as he pontificated, which is I suppose another element
of the generation gap

I suppose the eddy-haskell-ness of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern is a
third element.

Could you say how the Ragner-Lyth production addressed these?

D-

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