2003

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.1808  Thursday, 18 September 2003

[1]     From:   Jack Heller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 07:09:33 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

[2]     From:   Himadri Chatterjee <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 13:43:25 +0100 (BST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

[3]     From:   Todd Pettigrew <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 10:43:06 -0300
        Subj:   RE: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

[4]     From:   Colin Cox <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 07:00:14 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

[5]     From:   Michael Friedman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 14:50:08 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

[6]     From:   Chris Gordon <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 15:30:18 CDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

[7]     From:   Arthur Lindley <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 18 Sep 2003 09:06:57 +0800 (SGT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare


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From:           Jack Heller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 07:09:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

I'll join the inevitable crowd that is going to suggest Dogberry's
examinations of Borachio and his associate (his name escapes me). Some
of my own comments about this examination can be found in the recent
archives of SHAKSPER.

Jack Heller
Huntington College

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From:           Himadri Chatterjee <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 13:43:25 +0100 (BST)
Subject: 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

Another trial scene that comes to mind is that of Pompey Bum in "Measure
for Measure". This may be particularly appropriate, as judgement,
punishment and forgiveness are among the central themes of this play.

Himadri Chatterjee

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From:           Todd Pettigrew <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 10:43:06 -0300
Subject: 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare
Comment:        RE: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

On the question of staging trial scenes in Shakespeare, I think it could
be effective.

As for specific scenes, the questioning of Joan in 1Henry VI, and
Helena's audience with the King in All's Well (in which she asks to be
made "an experiment") would fall into the category but might not work on
stage in this context.  Better theatrically might be Hamlet's staging of
The Murder of Gonzago for Claudius which is meant to be a test of the
King's guilt -- thus a kind of trial scene.

Todd Pettigrew

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From:           Colin Cox <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 07:00:14 -0700
Subject: 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

John Marwick writes of trials in Will:

>I was wondering what list members made of
>the idea and what scenes they would include.

Apart from the ones stated, the trial in Comedy of Errors comes to
mind.  Othello is certainly put on trial, as is Coriolanus. Romeo is put
on trial in absentia. Angelo certainly puts Isabella to the test, and,
the English certainly put Joan La Pucelle to the stake in 1HVI. The
wrestling match in As You Like It is a trial of sorts, as is the stand
off between Bolinbroke and Mowbray. The opening of King John is a
hearing of judgement before the king. Also, Hotspur is commanded to
defend himself before Henry IV. Henry V certainly takes quick care of
Cambridge, Scroop and Grey in their hearing and the assassination of
Caesar is disguised as a hearing for Publius Cimber.

Food for thought.

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From:           Michael Friedman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 14:50:08 -0400
Subject: 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

The final scene of *Measure for Measure* resembles a trial, with either
the Duke or Angelo presiding as a judge at different stages of the
action.

Michael D. Friedman
University of Scranton
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From:           Chris Gordon <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 17 Sep 2003 15:30:18 CDT
Subject: 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

You might consider the scene in 1 Henry IV in which Falstaff and Hal
take turns as Hal and the King, a scene which Hal will play out in
reality the next day (you could include that one, as well).

Chris Gordon, Minneapolis

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From:           Arthur Lindley
 <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 18 Sep 2003 09:06:57 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1806 Trials in Shakespeare

Why not the trial scene in _The White Devil_ or are you strictly limited
to Shakespeare minus contemporaries?

Arthur Lindley

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