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Re: A Lover's Complaint
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.1365  Thursday, 3 July 2003

[1]     From:   Ward Elliott <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 02 Jul 2003 13:01:40 -0700
        Subj:   Ending the issue if I'm wrong

[2]     From:   Richard Kennedy <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 2 Jul 2003 14:01:25 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1345 Re: A Lover's Complaint


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From:           Ward Elliott <
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Date:           Wednesday, 02 Jul 2003 13:01:40 -0700
Subject:        Ending the issue if I'm wrong

In SHK 14.1345 Jim Carroll writes:

"Rather than merely claim that my counts are somehow wrong, why not post
the line numbers which contain "penultimate with"? There aren't that
many, and that should certainly end the issue there if I'm wrong,
wouldn't it?"

Would he promise to stop bugging me if I answered his question?

Ward Elliott

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From:           Richard Kennedy <
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Date:           Wednesday, 2 Jul 2003 14:01:25 -0700
Subject: 14.1345 Re: A Lover's Complaint
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1345 Re: A Lover's Complaint

Bob Grumman wrote this little note, and I'll respond.  First, Grumman:

"Frankly, if it weren't for the two W.S.'s and the backing of Richard
Kennedy, I would have accepted Ford as best probable author of the
Elegy. (Kennedy believes, among other things, that the name "Will
Shakespeare" was, like "Monty Catsin" in contemporary mail art, a
made-up name lots of people of the time used--at least ten or fifteen.)"
-Shakspere

My notion of the Shakespeare Canon is that there are several co-authors
of the plays, even now being discovered, and that some of the plays and
poems were written by people not yet given credit for their work. The
name "William Shakespeare", variations, or the initials "W.S." could be
used by anyone, the proof of this being the 1/3 of misattributed plays
of Shakespeare have been dropped along the way, and of course the "W.S."
of the Funeral Elegy, John Ford.

Regarding the Funeral Elegy, It's interesting that Bob Grumman waited to
know what I thought about the poem before he could make up his own
mind.  That's a great trust, thank you, Bob.

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