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Re: Richard Burt
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.1398  Tuesday, 8 July 2003

[1]     From:   Hardy M. Cook <
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        Date:   Tuesday, July 08, 2003
        Subj:   Re: Richard Burt

[2]     From:   Martin Steward <
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        Date:   Monday, 7 Jul 2003 17:02:50 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1386 Richard Burt

[3]     From:   Sam Small <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 8 Jul 2003 01:03:14 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1386 Richard Burt

[4]     From:   Linda Englade <
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        Date:   Monday, 7 Jul 2003 17:22:31 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1386 Richard Burt


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From:           Hardy M. Cook <
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Date:           Tuesday, July 08, 2003
Subject:        Re: Richard Burt

In addition, to the posts below, I have received several private e-mails
in response to Stuart Manger's post of yesterday (SHK 14.1386) -- some
supportive of its sentiments, others not.

Just as I ask for pre-publication self-moderation so too I ask for
anyone who is dissatisfied with what a particular member contributes to
exercise post-publication censorship by hitting the delete key.

I welcome members' opinions and will regard subsequent messages on this
subject as private e-mail.

Hardy

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From:           Martin Steward <
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Date:           Monday, 7 Jul 2003 17:02:50 +0100
Subject: 14.1386 Richard Burt
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1386 Richard Burt

"Do we REALLY have to go on having his prurient and distasteful stuff
cluttering the postings?" wails Stuart Manger about Richard Burt's
alerts to porno-Shakespeares. "I know I've raised this before, but
honestly, this is getting beyond a joke."

These are almost the only SHAKSPER posts that I forward onto my friends.

I wonder if this post will make it into a footnote in Burt's next study
of censorship?

m

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From:           Sam Small <
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Date:           Tuesday, 8 Jul 2003 01:03:14 +0100
Subject: 14.1386 Richard Burt
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1386 Richard Burt

I think Mr Manger should be more specific in his tetchy attack on
Richard Burt.  I looked through my SHAKSPER list with "Burt" in it and
cannot find a single offensive word.  It's only a guess, but perhaps Mr
Manger is objecting to pornography being mentioned in a Shakespeare
forum.  Perhaps Mr Manger is totally unaware of the ribald sexual nature
of some of Shakespeare's lines in the plays - or the explicit nature of
his imagery in the Sonnets.  That there should be porn versions of
Shakespeare's plays doesn't surprise me in the least - and shouldn't
surprise Mr Manger.  But then I could be totally wrong about him.

SAM SMALL

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From:           Linda Englade <
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Date:           Monday, 7 Jul 2003 17:22:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 14.1386 Richard Burt
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1386 Richard Burt

Well, clearly Mr. Burt does not see this material as a joke.  It is his
field of study, and whether we like it or not, it does apply to how
Shakespeare is used in pop culture.  Shakespeare is such a literary icon
that he has become cultural currency--we all know that.  These porn
directors and the "off the wall" areas that Mr. Burt studies are
attempting to insinuate themselves further into the culture by trading
on Shakespeare.  Whether or not one is offended by such "trafficking,"
there are references to the bard in each of the works and, as such, the
said "prurient" materials might be relevant to other scholars.

Just as some literary scholars are offended by the destruction of the
text in deconstruction or the sometimes "inappropriate" focus on the
author used in psychoanalytic crit, we still need to know about these
areas in order to better understand the criticism and refute it in our
own scholarship.  If nothing else, Mr. Burt's posts can provide a useful
springboard and/or something to fight against.

Linda Englade

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