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Re: New Light on the Sonnets
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.1433  Friday, 11 July 2003

[1]     From:   Terence Hawkes <
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        Date:   Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 11:39:20 -0400
        Subj:   SHK 14.1415 New Light on the Sonnets

[2]     From:   Thomas Larque <
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        Date:   Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 15:50:15 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1429 Re: New Light on the Sonnets

[3]     From:   Ira Zinman <
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        Date:   Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 12:13:07 EDT
        Subj:   oops a typo


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From:           Terence Hawkes <
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Date:           Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 11:39:20 -0400
Subject: New Light on the Sonnets
Comment:        SHK 14.1415 New Light on the Sonnets

Judi Crane aptly styles herself

'Judi Crane (who is not Peter Wilkins, Terence Hawkes)'.

We must all be relieved at this revelation. Of course, the Judi Crane
who IS Wilkins and Hawkes must now come forward. Close stylistic
analysis suggests that she is also Brian Vickers.

Terence Hawkes

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From:           Thomas Larque <
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Date:           Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 15:50:15 +0100
Subject: 14.1429 Re: New Light on the Sonnets
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1429 Re: New Light on the Sonnets

>Sounds like Dr Peter McDonald reasoned thus:
>
>"Since the youth is a male, and we do not want any implication of
>homosexuality, then it follows the writer must be a female, and who
>better to help see my book than Bess herself.  All I have to do now is
>interpret the sonnets in some fashion to make it all work out, and then
>call my publisher."
>
>My sentiment would be to say: "Sorry, Dr. McDonald you've missed it I am
>afraid."

I would love to see Dr. Peter McDonald's explanation for the Sonnet
wishing that the youth was a girl, so that the poet could have sex with
her, and the various poems about the Dark Lady, and how she had been
sleeping with various people including the poet.

Sounds like McDonald's homophobia has driven him to a (presumably
equally unwanted) lesbian reading of the Sonnets.  Personally I would
question whether the person who wrote the Sonnets was necessarily
bisexual (although this certainly seems possible), but while the Sonnets
may have been written by a heterosexual male poet, they certainly
couldn't have been written by a heterosexual female poet, since the
poems contain a very openly expressed sexual desire for women (whereas
the poet's sexual desire for men is either homosocial, suppressed, or
perhaps deliberately ambiguous).

Thomas Larque.
"Shakespeare and His Critics"
http://shakespearean.org.uk

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From:           Ira Zinman <
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Date:           Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 12:13:07 EDT
Subject:        oops a typo

On the post LIGHT ON THE SONNETS  my text had a typo for which I
apologize.  The word "see" should be "sell"

Regards,
Ira

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