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Re: Deconstruction
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.1443  Thursday, 17 July 2003

[1]     From:   Sally Drumm <
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        Date:   Friday, 11 Jul 2003 09:40:57 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1425 Re: Deconstruction

[2]     From:   D Bloom <
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        Date:   Friday, 11 Jul 2003 11:35:23 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1393 Re: Deconstruction


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From:           Sally Drumm <
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Date:           Friday, 11 Jul 2003 09:40:57 -0400
Subject: 14.1425 Re: Deconstruction
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1425 Re: Deconstruction

>Regarding "experience doesn't exist without words":

We think in images; words border image the way shape borders color.

Sincerely,
Sally Drumm

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From:           D Bloom <
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Date:           Friday, 11 Jul 2003 11:35:23 -0500
Subject: 14.1393 Re: Deconstruction
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1393 Re: Deconstruction

>From:           Terence Hawkes
>
>'Experience' does not hang, unsupported and free-floating, in mid-air.
>'Pain' 'remorse' or 'hunger' do not waft through empty rooms, looking
>for victims on whom to alight. People have experiences. People feel
>pain, remorse, hunger etc. If there were no people, how could these
>'experiences' take place? Since all human beings normally have their
>being within societies or communities, they can only occur within and as
>part of cultures, languages, ways of life, and the histories which
>embrace them all. Whoever bumps into a large oak branch whilst mowing
>the lawn does so as a member of a specific culture at a particular time
>and in a material place. The extent to which those factors may modify or
>create the experience, or the language it generates, or is generated by,
>can clearly be a matter for debate. But there can be and is no possible
>appeal to an essential 'experience itself' that lies beyond them.

I was still puzzled by this until I went back to Martin Steward's
original statement and my response. To wit:

>>Deconstruction is only about language and not about "reality", except
>>insofar as its practitioners generally hold the epistemological position
>>that the world is experienced exclusively through language.

>I'm finding some difficulty working this out. How do you experience the
>world through language? At all, much less "exclusively"?

>I experience other people's experiences through their use of language
>(some poetical, some not). I can express my experience of the world
>through my use of language. But the experience itself is handled other
>where.

I remarked at one point that we seemed to be talking about different
meanings of the word experience, but it turns out we were using
different meanings of the word "language." This appears to be a
synecdoche for individual consciousness, whereas I thought of it merely
as words, word, words. I would perhaps suggest a deconstructive
construction like "meta-language" to clarify the difference -- but let
it pass.

Cheers,
don

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