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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.1046  Monday, 2 June 2003

[1]     From:   Al Magary <
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        Date:   Sunday, 1 Jun 2003 16:17:57 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1025 Pop Culture References

[2]     From:   John Zuill <
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        Date:   Sunday, 01 Jun 2003 19:29:38 -0300
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1025 Pop Culture References


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From:           Al Magary <
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Date:           Sunday, 1 Jun 2003 16:17:57 -0700
Subject: 14.1025 Pop Culture References
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1025 Pop Culture References

>>You know, that is an interesting concept: a
>>Shakespeare play with Star
>>Trek as the setting.

Maybe I missed the beginning of this thread, but there have been
sci-fi'd Shakespeare adaptations--eg, Forbidden Planet (1956), with
Walter Pidgeon, Anne Francis, and Leslie Nielsen, is based on The
Tempest.

But you could have fooled me when I was 12.

Al Magary

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From:           John Zuill <
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Date:           Sunday, 01 Jun 2003 19:29:38 -0300
Subject: 14.1025 Pop Culture References
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1025 Pop Culture References

>The quotation from Shakespeare is from Twelfth Night ("Some are born
>great . . . "), not R and J, as I mistakenly wrote in my last post.  The
>line is quoted by Lizzie's father (Robert Carradine) and attributed to
>"William Shakespeare," but the play is not named.  Interestingly, in
>this movie about a teenage girl loser who turns out not to be a loser,
>the line is said as if were a taken from a Tony Robbins Positive Power
>videotape or dime store self-help book.

It is always taken that way.  The turn toward irony gets overlooked by
people quoting Shakespeare. I'm pretty sure that when the quotes are
understood in the context of the play in which they appear, the
allusion becomes pointless, so its better this way. Listen to snotty me.

john zuill

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