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Re: Edmund
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.1168  Thursday, 12 June 2003

[1]     From:   Edmund Taft <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 11 Jun 2003 09:38:10 -0400
        Subj:   Edmund

[2]     From:   Sean Lawrence <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 11 Jun 2003 12:55:59 -0300
        Subj:   Re: SHK 14.1161 Re: Edmund


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From:           Edmund Taft <
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Date:           Wednesday, 11 Jun 2003 09:38:10 -0400
Subject:        Edmund

Colleagues:

Brian Willis observes that "CAMRY = MY CAR," but he laments the fact
that he doesn't own one. I'm sorry about that, but I do!

David Bishop takes France at his word, but that is rather difficult to
do. Kent is surprised at the king's sudden departure and says so. The
Gentleman's explanation is that France suddenly thought of something so
important to the state that he had to leave his wife and his army right
away.

Now, if a messenger had arrived and told him that there was a planned
coup, well, maybe I'd buy it. But we are asked to believe that France
gathers an army, decides to lead it, orders the army to travel from
France to England, observes its landing, oversees the troops getting
ready for battle, and then suddenly says, "Oops! I forgot something
really important, I'm out of here!"

Really?

Finally, I might point out to Dave Evett that in 3.6.88ff Gloucester
himself provides a litter so that the old Lear can be carried to Dover.
The clear inference is that this is a journey that an old, sick man
should not take on foot. And it is revealing that Shakespeare uses
Gloucester to make the point. Need I say more?

--Ed Taft (Proud Toyota owner:)

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From:           Sean Lawrence <
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Date:           Wednesday, 11 Jun 2003 12:55:59 -0300
Subject: 14.1161 Re: Edmund
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.1161 Re: Edmund

Ed Taft writes, in answer to Dave Evett,

>"3.  Encouraging Gloucester to fall flat on his face is one way to
>visualize the fake suicide scene in *Lr*.  There are others.  In any
>case, this is Edgar's therapy for Gloucester's self-destructive
>despair.  It seems to work.  What would Taft suggest as an alternative?"
>
>Edgar could reveal himself to his father and tell him that he will
>guard/hide him. Simple, isn't it?

No, it isn't.  I realize that Cavell and Berger argue otherwise, but I
disagree with them.  If discovering Edgar after he has been steeled by
suffering and cured of despair kills Gloucester, imagine the damage if
he were to encounter Edgar with the knowledge of his sin fresh in his
mind and his suicidal thoughts still active.

Gloucester has already refused the aid of the old man, preferring the
company of the madman.  He offers to pay, placing himself in charge, and
refuses the charity of the Old Man telling him, above all, to "be
gone".  Clearly Gloucester prefers to be alone or, failing that,
attended only by someone who will not burden him with sympathy or a
sense of his own guilt.  Edgar proves himself similar to his father in
only being willing to reveal himself when wearing a mask ("armed").
Like Lear running into the storm, Gloucester's refusal of comfort is
primarily a refusal of aid, and a refusal of other people, to whom he
would be indebted for this aid and before whom he would be ashamed.

>Try making a blind forced march for a few hours and see how you feel, Dave!

Who says it's forced?  It's Gloucester who wants to go to Dover.

Cheers,
Sean.

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