The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0426 Friday, 13 February 2004
[1] From: Larry Weiss <
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Date: Thursday, 12 Feb 2004 15:24:37 -0500
Subj: Re: SHK 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
[2] From: D Bloom <
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Date: Thursday, 12 Feb 2004 14:39:30 -0600
Subj: RE: SHK 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
[3] From: David Evett <
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Date: Thursday, 12 Feb 2004 19:47:03 -0500
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[4] From: Alan Pierpoint <
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Date: Friday, 13 Feb 2004 05:38:27 EST
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From: Larry Weiss <
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Date: Thursday, 12 Feb 2004 15:24:37 -0500
Subject: 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
Comment: Re: SHK 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
>can we not assume that at
>least Juliet (maybe Romeo too) was prepubescent at age 13, even going on
>14?
Why should we assume that given her mother's observation (I.iii) that
"Here in Verona, ladies of esteem,
Are made already mothers: by my count
I was your mother much upon these years
That you are now a maid."
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From: D Bloom <
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Date: Thursday, 12 Feb 2004 14:39:30 -0600
Subject: 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
Comment: RE: SHK 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
David Cohen writes,
>. . . can we not assume that at
>least Juliet (maybe Romeo too) was prepubescent at age 13, even going on
>14? If so, then hers is puppy love, intense as it may be.
Well, no. Not as I understand his meaning or prepubescent, puppy love,
and the meaning of Juliet's speech at the beginning of III, 2. She is
not looking forward to a little handholding, but to getting well and
truly . . . well, enough said.
Cheers,
don
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From: David Evett <
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Date: Thursday, 12 Feb 2004 19:47:03 -0500
Subject: 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
Comment: Re: SHK 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
>Juliet seems to have at least the right of refusal.
>-Alan Pierpoint
Not so; when Juliet tries to refuse, her father condemns her to beg or
sell herself in the streets: "But, and you will not wed, I'll pardon
[ironic] you! / Graze where you will [you cow], you shall not house with
me" (Arden 3.5.188-89).
David Evett
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From: Alan Pierpoint <
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Date: Friday, 13 Feb 2004 05:38:27 EST
Subject: 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
Comment: Re: SHK 15.0415 Banned Shakespeare
David: Perhaps the Capulet women were precocious (I was your mother
much upon these years / That you are now a maid), or perhaps your
extrapolations about the onset of puberty overshoot the mark when
applied to Verona (Younger than she are happy mothers made.) Juliet's
love is obviously a first love. But does the quality of it really seem
"puppy"?
Respectfully,
Alan Pierpoint
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