2004

Ian McKellen Acting Shakespeare Tape?

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0451  Tuesday, 17 February 2004

From:           Joanne Walen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 16 Feb 2004 16:11:40 EST
Subject:        Ian McKellen Acting Shakespeare Tape?

Can anyone point me to a source for purchasing the Ian McKellen Acting
Shakespeare tape? A source was listed on this list several years ago,
but I've lost the reference. Many thanks.

Joanne Walen

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Old Journals

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0450  Tuesday, 17 February 2004

From:           David Hale <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 16 Feb 2004 12:26:55 -0500
Subject:        Old Journals

As I lurch towards retirement, I look around my office at shelves of old
journals going back to the 1960s or before--_Shakespeare Quarterly_,
_Renaissance Quarterly_, Modern Language Review_, and _PMLA_, to list
only the longest runs. Can anyone suggest a suitable home for these--an
institution somewhere which would welcome a contribution? Or have times
changed enough that my only choice is the recycle box?

Thanks,
David Hale

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Gary Taylor's Tragedy

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0448  Tuesday, 17 February 2004

From:           Kathy Dent <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 16 Feb 2004 15:31:36 +0000
Subject:        Gary Taylor's Tragedy

For anyone interested, Gary Taylor in Saturday's Guardian has offered a
curiously masculine reading of Shakespearean tragedy (as if we don't
already have a four hundred year old history of men's readings of
Shakespeare).

http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,12084,1146431,00.html

Does anyone else, like me, find his reading of female characters as
'props' and 'accessories' rather limited?  Perhaps he's unaware of Henry
Jackson's 1610 account of Othello in which it was clearly the tragedy of
Desdemona that moved contemporary audiences. Perhaps, when Taylor was
doing his suicide count in support of the assertion that 'Men also
commit suicide much more often than women do. (Witness Romeo, Cassius,
Brutus, Othello and Antony.)', he overlooked Juliet, Cleopatra,
Charmian, Portia and Ophelia.  Perhaps he also overlooked that Antony
and Romeo commit suicide because they believe their lovers to be dead,
thus demonstrating that without his woman a man's life isn't worth
living - just as much as the alternative demonstration that Taylor
witnesses.  But the chief paucity in Taylor's reading lies in his
unsubstantiated argument that the female members of the audience don't
'get' Shakespearean tragedy.  Regrettably, it seems that Taylor is
crying about all the wrong stuff.  His confession that 'I am never,
never, never, never, never weeping for Cordelia. I'm weeping for a
father, carrying his dead daughter' and his view that 'Desdemona dies
(twice) so that her tragic husband can suffer, exquisitely, for having
killed his innocent wife' are completely foreign to what moves me.  But
that doesn't mean I'm not moved.  Taylor's conclusion - that 'Morality
begins with compassion' - may have been hard-won through his many years
of labouring in the salt-mines of Shakespearean scholarship, but ! DUR !
  as a female member of the audience, I have always thought that the
precise and obvious invitation that Shakespeare offers all of us is to
emote about the victims of violence, not the perpetrators.  Sorry as I
am that Taylor doesn't 'get' it, he shouldn't be blaming Shakespeare for
creating a series of props, accessories and trophy wives - because I
happen to think that those very female characters are complex, bold and
strong.  But they are portrayed as characters lacking in economic and
social power and it is this tragedy that shapes their end.  Something to
cry about indeed.

Kathy Dent

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Sylvia in Love

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0449  Tuesday, 17 February 2004

From:           Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 16 Feb 2004 12:07:21 -0500
Subject: 15.0437 Sylvia in Love Correction
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.0437 Sylvia in Love Correction

Correction.  That was Sylvia reciting Lear after leaving Regan and Goneril:

If it be you that stir these daughters' hearts
Against their father, fool me not so much
To bear it tamely; touch me with noble anger,
And let not women's weapons, water-drops,
Stain my man's cheeks! No, you unnatural hags,
I will have such revenges on you both,
That all the world shall--I will do such things,--
What they are, yet I know not: but they shall be
The terrors of the earth. You think I'll weep
No, I'll not weep:
I have full cause of weeping; but this heart
Shall break into a hundred thousand flaws,
Or ere I'll weep. O fool, I shall go mad!

2.7.

Paltrow / Plath recites the whole thing.

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Henry V Question

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0447  Tuesday, 17 February 2004

From:           Dan Smith <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 16 Feb 2004 13:51:32 -0000
Subject: 15.0418 Henry V Question
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.0418 Henry V Question

"he uses the alias Le Roy"

Adrian Lester got an additional (intentional) layer of humour by
responding as Leroy in the last NT Henry V.

BTW I think the intriguing question prompted by the use of French jokes
is the extent to which members of the audience understood French.
Huguenot immigration and trade with France might have spread knowledge
of French in both the lower as well as the upper classes in the audience.

Dan Smith

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