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A Thought for St. David's Day
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0597  Thursday, 4 March 2004

[1]     From:   Patricia Stewart <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 3 Mar 2004 09:13:28 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.0590 A Thought for St. David's Day

[2]     From:   Duncan Salkeld <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 03 Mar 2004 11:07:28 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.0590  A Thought for St. David's Day

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        Date:   Wednesday, 3 Mar 2004 13:15:53 -0500
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From:           Patricia Stewart <
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Date:           Wednesday, 3 Mar 2004 09:13:28 -0500
Subject: 15.0590 A Thought for St. David's Day
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.0590 A Thought for St. David's Day

Perhaps this has already been pointed out but another possible reason
for King Henry identifying himself as Welsh would be the belief that the
once and future King Arthur was from Wales.  So Henry VII names his
first son Arthur, and Shakespeare's Hal likewise cloaks himself in Welsh
promise.

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From:           Duncan Salkeld <
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Date:           Wednesday, 03 Mar 2004 11:07:28 -0500
Subject: 15.0590  A Thought for St. David's Day
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.0590  A Thought for St. David's Day

Willm Fluellen and George Bardolfe were also Stratfordians and reported
in 1592 to 'come not to church for fear of process for debt' - along
with John Shackespere.

Duncan Salkeld
University College Chichester

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From:           Terence Hawkes <
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Date:           Wednesday, 3 Mar 2004 13:15:53 -0500
Subject: A Thought for St. David's Day
Comment:        SHK 15.0590 A Thought for St. David's Day

Bill Godshalk wistfully nominates my phrase "Falstaff's barely palpable
'Welshness" as

"Truly a concept to exercise the brains of my students".

I should jolly well hope so.  A barely palpable dimension of 'Welshness'
clearly accrues to Falstaff as a result of his links with Sir John
Oldcastle (c1378-1417), Falstaff's 'remote original' as the Arden editor
calls him. Oldcastle was a High Sheriff of Herefordshire and a friend of
the young Henry. Holinshed describes him as a 'valiant captaine and a
hardie gentleman', who was 'highly in the king's favour'. However, Henry
cast him off when he was charged with Wycliffite heresy (Lollardism) and
imprisoned. Escaping from the Tower, Oldcastle famously took refuge in
Wales, an area he knew well. His continuing presence there linked him
with the Principality's notorious potential for disruption, and fostered
rumours and official nervousness about a possible Oldcastle-Welsh
alliance. Indeed, before being finally run to earth in Powys, he was
thought to have been in contact with Owain Glyn Dwr's son. (See R. R.
Davies, 'The Revolt of Owain Glyn Dwr', OUP 1995, pp. 300-01).

T. Hawkes

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