The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0904 Tuesday, 20 April 2004
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Date: Monday, 19 Apr 2004 08:03:01 -0500
Subj: Re: SHK 15.0891 Stylometrics
[2] From: Jonathan Hope <
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Date: Monday, 19 Apr 2004 13:02:42 +0100
Subj: Re: SHK 15.0891 Stylometrics
[3] From: Bob Grumman <
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Date: Monday, 19 Apr 2004 08:36:42 -0400
Subj: Re: SHK 15.0891 Stylometrics
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From: R. A. Cantrell <
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Date: Monday, 19 Apr 2004 08:03:01 -0500
Subject: 15.0891 Stylometrics
Comment: Re: SHK 15.0891 Stylometrics
>I thought that stylometrics had established beyond any doubt that
>Terence Hawkes was actually a pseudonym for Hardy - one of his most
>brilliant creations, in fact, the indolent and ironical Englishman to
>serve as an alter ego to the earnest and hardworking American.
Caution: T. Hawkes *may* be Welsh.
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From: Jonathan Hope <
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Date: Monday, 19 Apr 2004 13:02:42 +0100
Subject: 15.0891 Stylometrics
Comment: Re: SHK 15.0891 Stylometrics
If Michael Egan genuinely wants answers to his questions about
attribution studies, he should read some or all of the following:
Joseph Rudman, 1998, 'The state of authorship studies: some problems and
solutions', Computers and the Humanities, 31, pp. 351-65
Harold Love, 2000, Attributing Authorship: an introduction (CUP)
David Holmes, 1994, 'Authorship attribution', Computers and the
Humanities, 28, pp. 87-106
David Holmes, 1998, 'The evolution of stylometry in humanities
scholarship', Literary and Linguistic Computing, 13.3, pp. 111-17
I'm not trying to dodge his questions, but they would all take a long
time to answer, and I don't think an email discussion list is the best
place to answer such a broad range of fundamental questions. If he's
not happy with this, I'll take them one by one if he wants to re-pose
them one by one.
All of the recent attribution work I've read is punctilious (indeed,
often buttock-clenchingly so) about addressing the questions Michael
raises in his post.
Jonathan Hope
Strathclyde University, Glasgow http://www.sinrs.stir.ac.uk/
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From: Bob Grumman <
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Date: Monday, 19 Apr 2004 08:36:42 -0400
Subject: 15.0891 Stylometrics
Comment: Re: SHK 15.0891 Stylometrics
Michael Egan writes,
>The responses to key questions have been
>very unsatisfactory, in some
>cases no response at all. The most important for list readers are these:
>What are the testable and verifiable data underlying the assumptions of
>Stylometrical analysis? Is Shakespeare sufficiently exceptional as a
>writer so as not to be amenable to the same analyses as others? Are the
>measured stylistic variants in his work indicators of collaboration
>and/or non-authorship, or merely of his own evolution as a writer? Is
>drama in a different category from other literary genres? -- As
>Schoenbaum remarks, 'The cadences of the council chamber may be expected
>to differ from those of the boudoir.'
Right, and to drop a level of classification, a comedy may be in a
different category from a tragedy or history; or to drop another level
of classification, a romantic comedy may be in a different category from
a farce. An author might aim for different audiences with the same kind
of play, too, with changes in word-use. Lots of other factors, as well.
I think stylometrics fascinating and near-certain to one day be very
persuasive, but for now Heminges and Condell will remain my authorities
for which plays Shakespeare authored.
--Bob G.
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