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A Couple of Anniversaries Today
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1034  Monday, 10 May 2004

[1]     From:   John Briggs <
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        Date:   Friday, 7 May 2004 15:26:51 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1024 A Couple of Anniversaries Today

[2]     From:   Martin Steward <
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        Date:   Friday, 7 May 2004 23:58:10 +0100
        Subj:   SHK 15.1024 A Couple of Anniversaries Today

[3]     From:   Edson Tadeu Ortolan <
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        Date:   Saturday, 8 May 2004 01:17:07 -0300
        Subj:   A Couple of Anniversaries Today


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From:           John Briggs <
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Date:           Friday, 7 May 2004 15:26:51 +0100
Subject: 15.1024 A Couple of Anniversaries Today
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1024 A Couple of Anniversaries Today

Al Magary wrote:

 >>On this day [April 23] in 1616 both William Shakespeare and
 >>Miguel de Cervantes died.
 >>
 >>John Briggs commented:
 >>
 >>They didn't die on the same day, of course.
 >>
 >Yes, those who celebrated the real Millennium at midnight of December
 >31, 2000, will complain about the technical accuracy of Sh. and
 >Cervantes dying "the same day."  Date as locally reckoned, yes, but not
 >day.

Yes, exactly.  There is a similar problem with the oft-encountered
statement that Isaac Newton was born in the same year that Galileo
Galilei died.  No, he wasn't (on either calendar), although he was born
less than a year after the death of Galileo.  (Galileo was born in the
same year as Shakespeare - although that statement may depend on the
date of commencement of the new year!)

John Briggs

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From:           Martin Steward <
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Date:           Friday, 7 May 2004 23:58:10 +0100
Subject: A Couple of Anniversaries Today
Comment:        SHK 15.1024 A Couple of Anniversaries Today

"those who celebrated the real Millennium at midnight of December 31,
2000..."

What was the date of Christ's birth, again...? It's on the tip of my
tongue...

m

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From:           Edson Tadeu Ortolan <
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Date:           Saturday, 8 May 2004 01:17:07 -0300
Subject:        A Couple of Anniversaries Today

John Briggs wrote:

 >They [Shakespeare and Cervantes] didn't die on the same day, of course.

Yes, they died. Same day, but in the Spanish 17th century calendar was
April, 13 and in the English 17th century calendar was April, 23.

Why are two different calendars?

In 1582, the pope Gregory 13th. reformed the calendar suppressing 10
days (concerning an astronomical problem), but the Anglican Church
adopted the new calendar only in 1752.

So, we can add 10 days in the Spanish calendar to understand the
coincidence of the deaths:
13 April (Catholic/Spanish calendar) + 10 (suppressed days) = 23 April
(Anglican/English calendar).

Or we diminished 10 days in Anglican Calendar:
23 April (Anglican/English calendar) - 10 = 13 April (Catholic/Spanish
calendar).

Choice the day!

Edson Tadeu Ortolan
History of the Theatre
Brasil

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