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Silly Test
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1090  Thursday, 20 May 2004

[1]     From:   Richard Burt <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:36:52 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1081 Silly Test

[2]     From:   Ben Spiller <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:53:34 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1081 Silly Test

[3]     From:   Janet Costa <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:56:39 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1081 Silly Test

[4]     From:   Susanne Greenhalgh <
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        Date:   Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:18:51 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.1081 Silly Test


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From:           Richard Burt <
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Date:           Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:36:52 -0400
Subject: 15.1081 Silly Test
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1081 Silly Test

Yes, they are two entirely different versions. The one directed by
Bogdanov is available commercially. Susanne Greenslagh has written well
on the Woolcock film.

R

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From:           Ben Spiller <
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Date:           Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:53:34 +0100
Subject: 15.1081 Silly Test
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1081 Silly Test

You're right, Dan, as Michael was the director of Shakespeare on the
Estate: a documentary that saw him meet a number of people from the
Ladywood Estate (West Midlands of England) and tried to sell them the
idea of performing a bit of Shakespeare.  The results are very
interesting - and oftentimes deeply moving - especially when a young
single mum performs Lady Macduff, a drag queen performs Princess
Katherine's English lesson from Henry V (in a particularly rough pub),
and a gang of young lads mix their own street language with Elizabethan
English in a scene from Romeo and Juliet (they were excellent at
portraying the violence of the play through their own understanding of
gang warfare).  It was surprising that Michael didn't develop his work
on the documentary into a full production of one of the plays; but, yes,
it was Penny Woolcock who directed Macbeth on the Estate (performed by
professional actors as well as residents of the estate).  I videoed
Shakespeare on the Estate when it was recently repeated on BBC4 and
would be more than happy to lend it to you, Dan, although I don't have a
copy of Macbeth on the Estate.

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From:           Janet Costa <
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Date:           Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:56:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1081 Silly Test
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1081 Silly Test

Dan Smith wrote:

Incidentally am not sure that Bogdanov was involved - Imdb lists the
director as Penny Woolcock...

Thanks for the correction, Dan. The Estate version was 1997 and
Bogdanov's 1999. Both were radically different. Of all the versions I've
seen on film, the Estate version is the best in my opinion.

Particularly striking is the treatment of Lady Macbeth and what
precipitates her madness and suicide. It all made wonderful dramatic
sense. The audience I watched it with were stunned into silence and very
emotionally moved.

Janet

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From:           Susanne Greenhalgh <
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Date:           Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:18:51 +0100
Subject: 15.1081 Silly Test
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.1081 Silly Test

Macbeth on the Estate was indeed directed by Penny Woolcock - Bogdanov
was only involved as presenter/subject in her earlier Shakespeare on the
Estate.  See some earlier discussion on this list.  I have a copy of
both, but Macbeth is lacking the pre-title sequence. I'd love to hear
from anyone with a good version available for copying...

Incidentally, my son took the silly test in question and was equally
irate, as were his teachers and fellow students.

Susanne Greenhalgh

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