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Greene's Upstart Crow
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1106  Monday, 24 May 2004

[1]     From:   David Kathman <
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        Date:   Saturday, 22 May 2004 00:55:57 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1100 Greene's Upstart Crow

[2]     From:   Peter Bridgman <
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        Date:   Saturday, 22 May 2004 12:45:19 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1100 Greene's Upstart Crow


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From:           David Kathman <
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Date:           Saturday, 22 May 2004 00:55:57 -0500
Subject: 15.1100 Greene's Upstart Crow
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1100 Greene's Upstart Crow

Lisa Hopkins wrote:

 >The argument for its being Alleyn is set out at length in A.D. Wraight
 >and Virginia F. Stern, In Search of Christopher Marlowe.
 >
 >The first edition was in 1965 and there was a revised one in 1993,
 >published by Adam Hart.

People should be aware that A. D. (Dolly) Wraight was a Marlovian, i.e.
a person who thought that Christopher Marlowe faked his death and
secretly wrote the works of Shakespeare.  She was still trying to hide
it somewhat when she wrote "In Search of Christopher Marlowe", but by
the 1980s she was full-on batty and closely involved with the
Marlowe-wrote-Shakespeare movement (such as it is).  The book does
contain good photographs and some interesting stuff about the places
where Marlowe lived, worked, and went to school, but it also contains
quite a bit of silliness designed to subtly support the Marlovian cause.
  Her argument for Alleyn as the "upstart crow" is one such part.  It
depends on the assumption that Edward Alleyn wrote plays, an assumption
that Wraight embraces based on a misreading of Henslowe's Diary, and
even if one grants that mistaken assumption, the reasoning is extremely
tenuous.  The only people I'm aware of who have taken Wraight's argument
seriously are antistratfordians, whose belief system requires them to
deny that the "upstart crow" could be William Shakespeare.

Dave Kathman

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From:           Peter Bridgman <
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Date:           Saturday, 22 May 2004 12:45:19 +0100
Subject: 15.1100 Greene's Upstart Crow
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1100 Greene's Upstart Crow

"There is an upstart crow, beautified with our feathers, that with his
'Tiger's heart wrapped in a player's hide' supposes he is well able to
bombast out a blank verse as the best of you; and being an absolute
Johannes factotum, is in his own conceit the only Shake-scene in a country".

Haha.  These lines must be a major embarrassment for the Oxford eejits.

"Beautified" with our feathers?  That's a vile phrase.

Peter Bridgman

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