2004

Film about Mary, Queen of Scots and James VI/I

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0996  Monday, 3 May 2004

[1]     From:   D Bloom <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 30 Apr 2004 09:20:27 -0500
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.0987 Film about Mary, Queen of Scots and James VI/I

[2]     From:   Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 30 Apr 2004 13:25:38 -0700
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.0987 Film about Mary, Queen of Scots and James VI/I


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From:           D Bloom <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 30 Apr 2004 09:20:27 -0500
Subject: 15.0987 Film about Mary, Queen of Scots and James VI/I
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.0987 Film about Mary, Queen of Scots and James VI/I

David Lindley quotes my assertion

 >But if you do allow for relative degrees of truth, and if you
 >care about the telling of the truth, then a consciousness of
 >facts, and a devotion to them, is very important.

and complains

 >"So it's OK then, for Shakespeare to fiddle with Greene's Pandosto and
 >make the Queen live (because he's adapting a fiction), but not for him
 >to fiddle the age of Hotspur to make him an exact parallel with Hal
 >(because he's adapting an historical chronicle)?"

No. It's because he lived before the development of analytical history.
  The sources he worked from "played fast and loose" and no one cared,
including the IB.

We now have a field of historical research and we expect its
practitioners to follow certain methods to obtain the facts as best they
can. And we trust them because we are reasonably certain that while they
may be wrong, they won't simply lie.

A personal anecdote. Many years ago when I was working for a newspaper,
a friend of the editorial page editor wrote a book which he claimed was
a factual account of how a reclusive billionaire was able to get himself
cloned. The author averred that the work was not fiction and made a big
to-do about it, and the editor in question went along with him "for the
fun of it." The rest of us did not find it funny. To us this guy was a
fake who was trying to use the news media, and our paper especially,
simply to improve his chances of making big bucks. If there had been any
truth to the story, it would have been news, and we would have gladly
reported it. But the author was very coy about facts-as you might well
expect-and so we concluded that it was simply a publicity stunt.

Professions that expect or hope to be trusted-law, medicine,
scholarship, journalism, teaching-have to establish ethical standards
and abide by them. Otherwise they won't be trusted. Hacks and quacks and
con-artists then come along and try to take advantage of that hard-won
trust by pretending to be part of the ethical association.

But there is no point in accusing Shakespeare of doing so when the
association did not yet exist.

Cheers,
don

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From:           Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 30 Apr 2004 13:25:38 -0700
Subject: 15.0987 Film about Mary, Queen of Scots and James VI/I
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.0987 Film about Mary, Queen of Scots and James VI/I

Richard Burt's dismissal is rather odd.  Surely questions of truth and
history are far larger than the publications of a few of his favourite
critics and historians, though it's nice of him to provide a list.
Levinas introduces one of his essays by declaring that philosophy deals
with truth, for instance, and Richard's list also omits Gadamer's "The
Truth of the Work of Art".

In any case, someone who refuses to discuss or listen to any explanation
about what "relative degrees of truth are or how they would provide
criteria for filmmakers for historians" seems to exclude himself from
dialogue on the subject far more fully and purposefully than someone who
hasn't seen the film in question or hasn't read (say) Vivian Sobchack.

Yours,
Sean Lawrence.

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Protestant Exorcism

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0995  Monday, 3 May 2004

[1]     From:   John D. Cox <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 30 Apr 2004 09:38:55 -0400
        Subj:   Exorcism

[2]     From:   Peter Bridgman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 30 Apr 2004 19:11:13 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.0983 Protestant Exorcism

[3]     From:   Lea Luecking Frost <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 30 Apr 2004 17:07:52 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.0983 Protestant Exorcism


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From:           John D. Cox <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 30 Apr 2004 09:38:55 -0400
Subject:        Exorcism

John Velz's question about exorcism in the English church can best be
answered by looking at F. W. Brownlow's *Shakespeare, Harsnett, and the
Devils of Denham* (U of Delaware P, 1993).  As Brownlow makes clear, the
English Church opposed both Catholic "exorcism" (a prescribed ritual)
and Puritan "dispossession" (prayer alone).  One cannot, therefore,
speak of "Protestant exorcism," because the English church opposed all
cleansing of devils, and Puritans eschewed exorcism per se.  I've
addressed the issue in regard to stage plays in *The Devil and the
Sacred in English Drama, 1350-1642* (Cambridge, 2000).

John Cox
Hope College

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From:           Peter Bridgman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 30 Apr 2004 19:11:13 +0100
Subject: 15.0983 Protestant Exorcism
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.0983 Protestant Exorcism

J.W.Velz's student asks:

 >As far as you know, would an Anglican bishop or priest of the
 >Elizabethan period believe in
 >demon-possession and exorcisms, or was that already considered catholic
 >silliness?

I think your student might have things upside down.  Both the Catholic
and Anglican churches still perform exorcisms, but these are extremely
rare in both churches.  Pentacostal Protestant churches on the other
hand perform exorcisms much more frequently, as they tend to blame
"normal" mental illness on demon possession.

As for belief in demon possession in Shakespeare's day, the head of the
Anglican church, James I, not only believed in demon-possession and
witchcraft, he wrote the authorative book on the subject.

"The more women, the more witches".  (James I)

Peter Bridgman

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From:           Lea Luecking Frost <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 30 Apr 2004 17:07:52 -0600
Subject: 15.0983 Protestant Exorcism
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.0983 Protestant Exorcism

If you haven't already recommended it, you might point your student in
the direction of Harsnett's Declaration of Egregious Popish Impostures,
which doesn't address your question directly but does take on the notion
of exorcism from a Protestant perspective. F.W. Brownlow's "Shakespeare,
Harsnett, and the Devils of Denham" also addresses the issue (and
includes Harsnett's text).

Regards,
Lea

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Jonson Masque "Oberon" Available on DVD

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0993  Monday, 3 May 2004

From:           Tom Bishop <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 30 Apr 2004 10:57:11 -0500
Subject:        Jonson Masque "Oberon" Available on DVD

Dear colleagues,

I am happy to announce that the live production of a full reconstruction
of Jonson "Oberon the Fairy Prince" performed at CWRU in 1993 is now
available on DVD -- and I apologize for the delay to those of you who
have waited such a long time after the initial announcement that it was
forthcoming. The performance features music direction and violin playing
by David Douglass of "The King's Noyse", choreography by historical
dance specialist Ken Pierce (who also dances the title role), and stage
direction by Barry Rutter (Artistic Director of England's "Northern
Broadsides" company). The music is performed and sung from surviving
original MSS, or to contemporary contrafacta by Ross Duffin (now author
of "Shakespeare's Songbook") where no tunes are extant. The designs
follow (albeit on a limited budget) the records left by Inigo Jones.
The performance, including a suite of court dances (pavan, coranto,
galliarn, branles) runs about 60 minutes and is an excellent teaching
tool and, as far as I know, the only performance of a Jacobean masque
available. The DVD also includes an historical commentary section
discussing the original performance and the reconstruction by yours truly.

And the bears dance!

The DVD costs $60 and is available by contacting:

Ross Duffin
Department of Music
CWRU
Cleveland OH 44106-7105

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Or you can send questions and enquiries to me and I'll pass them on.

Tom

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Coriolanus 4.5

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0994  Monday, 3 May 2004

From:           Jack Heller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:08:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject:        Coriolanus 4.5

Listmembers:

My latest reading of CORIOLANUS has provoked my interest in Act 4, scene
5, in which Coriolanus arrives unrecognized at the house of Aufidius in
Antium. The only criticism I have found of this scene focuses on the
homoeroticism of Aufidius's welcome in lines 110-139. However, I am
interested in the responses of the servingmen before and after they
become aware that their unknown visitor is Coriolanus. Could listmembers
direct me to criticism focused on their responses, perhaps in connection
with Aufidius's welcome, or with the responses of the Roman plebeians,
or with the development of Coriolanus's masculine identity?

Jack Heller
Huntington College

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Hamlet Parody Being Streamed On the Internet (Audio

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0992  Monday, 3 May 2004

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Date:           Friday, 30 Apr 2004 20:43:16 +0000
Subject:        Hamlet Parody Being Streamed On the Internet (Audio Only)

My parody of Hamlet titled "A Night In Elsinore" is being performed on
the radio in North Carolina on May 8.  The performance will also be
streamed over the Internet.  For more information, please visit the
producer's website at:

http://www.actorssceneunseen.com

Thank you.

Richard Nathan

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