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Modified Procedures
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1839  Wednesday, 6 October 2004

[1]     From:   Stuart Hampton-Reeves <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 05 Oct 2004 18:06:31 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1827 Modified Procedures

[2]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 05 Oct 2004 15:30:20 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1827 Modified Procedures

[3]     From:   Charles Weinstein <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 5 Oct 2004 17:47:19 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1827 Modified Procedures

[4]     From:   Stephen Dobbin <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 09:26:53 +0100 (BST)
        Subj:   Current U.S. Francophobia


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From:           Stuart Hampton-Reeves <
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Date:           Tuesday, 05 Oct 2004 18:06:31 +0100
Subject: 15.1827 Modified Procedures
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1827 Modified Procedures

I must reply briefly to Bill Arnold. I never accused Charles of libel or
anything else. I hope it was clear that my remarks were about general
issues raised by the recent discussion, prefaced as they were with the
phrase  'whether the comments are libellous or not.' Strangely, I made
few of the points that Bill has taken the trouble to so wittily rebut.

Monsieur Stuart

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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Tuesday, 05 Oct 2004 15:30:20 -0400
Subject: 15.1827 Modified Procedures
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1827 Modified Procedures

Enough already about libel law.  Bill Arnold's impressions are overly
simplistic and, therefore, inaccurate.

What Chas Weinstein wrote were expressions of opinion, not assertions of
fact.  Therefore, under both US and (I believe) UK law, they cannot be
defamatory.  In addition, as Russell Beale is a public figure, any
statement about him is privileged in US law (even false assertions of
fact) unless it is made with actual knowledge that it is false or with
reckless disregard for whether it is true or not.

Let's stop this.

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From:           Charles Weinstein <
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Date:           Tuesday, 5 Oct 2004 17:47:19 -0400
Subject: 15.1827 Modified Procedures
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1827 Modified Procedures

It is neither clear, consistent, nor comprehensive, but elaboration will
have to wait.

--Charles Weinstein

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From:           Stephen Dobbin <
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Date:           Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 09:26:53 +0100 (BST)
Subject:        Current U.S. Francophobia

Bill Arnold gives us a very precise summary of U.S. libel issues. But
why on earth does he dub Stuart Hampton-Reeves "Monsieur."?

Is this simply a crude extension of the current Republican post-Iraq
idea that you can slur John Kerry by linking him to the French? (He
looks French, which is suspicious. He speaks French, which is weird. He
once vacationed in France, which is unpatriotic. He must be just waiting
to hand our foreign policy over to the French)

Or - in defiance of the maxim that war is God's way of teaching
Americans geography - does Bill Arnold imagine that Stuart
Hampton-Reeves is a typical French name and the University of Central
Lancashire is just south of Paris?

If Lafayette were alive today he'd be turning in his grave!

Stephen.

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