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Twilight of the Gods
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1851  Thursday, 7 October 2004

[1]     From:   Thomas Pendleton <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 12:39:42 -0400
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.1798 Twilight of the Gods

[2]     From:   Cary M. Mazer <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 06 Oct 2004 14:25:42 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1837 Twilight of the Gods


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From:           Thomas Pendleton <
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Date:           Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 12:39:42 -0400
Subject: 15.1798 Twilight of the Gods
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.1798 Twilight of the Gods

Given the bashing--whether justly or unjustly--Charles Weinstein has
endured for bashing--whether justly or unjustly--Simon Russell Beale, it
seems a matter of simple equity to thank him for his enlightening post
referring to another much admired actor--Ian Holm.

And I liked Brian Willis's response as well.

Tom Pendleton

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From:           Cary M. Mazer <
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Date:           Wednesday, 06 Oct 2004 14:25:42 -0400
Subject: 15.1837 Twilight of the Gods
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1837 Twilight of the Gods

Charles Weinstein writes

 >I have no idea what Holm said to Mr. Willis in person, but the above
 >does not strike me as a palinode.  And with all due respect and
 >admiration for both of them, it is hardly irrelevant to note that
 >Guinness never achieved greatness in Shakespeare, and that Holm has not
 >come close to rivaling Olivier (as I suspect Holm himself would be the
 >first to admit).

And yet I'm sure Weinstein would agree:  a bisexual like Olivier could
never be credible playing the more virile roles in the Shakespeare canon.

Oops, I'm sorry; I thought he was talking about Beale.  And of course,
Olivier wasn't a fatso, so I suppose his having been a faggot is
probably OK.

Cary

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