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2 Gents on pinkmonkey
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1875  Saturday, 9 October 2004

[1]     From:   Norman Hinton <
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        Date:   Thursday, 07 Oct 2004 11:23:24 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1852 2 Gents on pinkmonkey

[2]     From:   Cheryl Newton <
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        Date:   Thursday, 07 Oct 2004 13:59:22 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1852 (pinkmonkey) writin' da speach


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From:           Norman Hinton <
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Date:           Thursday, 07 Oct 2004 11:23:24 -0500
Subject: 15.1852 2 Gents on pinkmonkey
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1852 2 Gents on pinkmonkey

English teachers have endured this sort of thing for many years -- the
faculty in other departments complain that students don't know grammar
and syntax -- we ask if they ever mark grammatical and syntactic errors
in student papers, and they say "Who, us ?  WE'RE not English teachers!"

I once asked a scientist if I should note an error if a student said
that gravity doesn't exist -- he said "Of course!" and was annoyed that
I'd even ask -- he didn't notice the irony.

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From:           Cheryl Newton <
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Date:           Thursday, 07 Oct 2004 13:59:22 -0400
Subject: 15.1852 (pinkmonkey) writin' da speach
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1852 (pinkmonkey) writin' da speach

 >Larry Weiss writes:  I believe it is incumbent on all teachers to make
 >clear that
 >proper written and spoken English are as necessary for success in
 >whatever they teach as in the "English" class.  Of course, this does not
 >apply to foreign language teachers, so you need not post those jokes.

30 years ago, I enjoyed a cat fight between a veteran English Lit prof &
a newcomer Classics prof on just this subject.

I've seen Susan's method to be very effective in starting to free the
students' inhibitions about writing.  One key is to mark corrections in
some neutral (not red) color, & note corrections.  This works well with
special ed kids.  Yes, I have an adult special needs daughter, & from
necessity took a lot of responsibility for her education.    She'll
never pass a spelling test, but she writes page after page of letters to
friends and keeps a rambling diary.

I'm glad to know there are teachers like Susan who are working with kids
who have physical or social shortcomings, & giving them a chance to
succeed at something in school.  There's nothing more important than the
first step toward success.  How else do we start?

On topic follow up.  Sort of.  My daughter *begged* me to take her to
see Gibson's Hamlet.  I tried to talk her out of it, but she persisted.
  She was quiet but wiggly until he intoned, "Now could I drink hot
blood!"  At that point she screamed into the silent theater, "Eeeeww,
GROSS!"

Cheryl

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