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Question on Measure for Measure
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1900  Monday, 18 October 2004

[1]     From:   M Yawney <
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        Date:   Friday, 15 Oct 2004 06:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure

[2]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Friday, 15 Oct 2004 13:57:41 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure


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From:           M Yawney <
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Date:           Friday, 15 Oct 2004 06:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure

One thing that is not clear to me about your theory is how it relates
elements from the source play to the allegory. Surely those plot and
character elements would demonstrate some friction against the allegory?

Also, why would Shakespeare have chosen Promos and Cassandra to build
such a complex structure on when surely it would have been easier to
create his own plot structure if he was interested in commenting on
these monetary issues?

I find it hard to believe your ideas anyway since they make assumptions
that seem unlikely about how writers create their work, but to not
account for Promos and Cassandra's relationship to Measure to Measure
marginalizes the whole argument. It implies that your allegory was just
something tacked on by either Shakespeare or you to the body of a play
whose real concerns are elsewhere.

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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Friday, 15 Oct 2004 13:57:41 -0400
Subject: 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure

 > the fact that "Mariana" appeared in a bed-trick in another
 > play means nothing without supporting data that Mr. Larque failed to
 > provide, such as just how common a name was "Mariana" in plays of that
 > period, and how many such plays involve bed-tricks.

There are only about 400 extant English plays for the period antedating
M/M.  It would be the work of an hour or two online to answer this
question, and Mr. Krause can do it as well as Mr. Larque.  My guess is
that precisely two plays have Marianas involved in bed tricks.  But if
there were more, if it were as common as mistaken identity in modern
crime drama, that would cut against Krause's theory, as the use of
Mariana in a bed trick would merely be a common device not likely to
allude to Juan de Mariana.

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