2004

Question on Measure for Measure

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1900  Monday, 18 October 2004

[1]     From:   M Yawney <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 15 Oct 2004 06:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure

[2]     From:   Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 15 Oct 2004 13:57:41 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure


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From:           M Yawney <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 15 Oct 2004 06:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure

One thing that is not clear to me about your theory is how it relates
elements from the source play to the allegory. Surely those plot and
character elements would demonstrate some friction against the allegory?

Also, why would Shakespeare have chosen Promos and Cassandra to build
such a complex structure on when surely it would have been easier to
create his own plot structure if he was interested in commenting on
these monetary issues?

I find it hard to believe your ideas anyway since they make assumptions
that seem unlikely about how writers create their work, but to not
account for Promos and Cassandra's relationship to Measure to Measure
marginalizes the whole argument. It implies that your allegory was just
something tacked on by either Shakespeare or you to the body of a play
whose real concerns are elsewhere.

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From:           Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 15 Oct 2004 13:57:41 -0400
Subject: 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1888 Question on Measure for Measure

 > the fact that "Mariana" appeared in a bed-trick in another
 > play means nothing without supporting data that Mr. Larque failed to
 > provide, such as just how common a name was "Mariana" in plays of that
 > period, and how many such plays involve bed-tricks.

There are only about 400 extant English plays for the period antedating
M/M.  It would be the work of an hour or two online to answer this
question, and Mr. Krause can do it as well as Mr. Larque.  My guess is
that precisely two plays have Marianas involved in bed tricks.  But if
there were more, if it were as common as mistaken identity in modern
crime drama, that would cut against Krause's theory, as the use of
Mariana in a bed trick would merely be a common device not likely to
allude to Juan de Mariana.

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Billy Bob on the Bard

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1899  Monday, 18 October 2004

From:           William Sutton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 15 Oct 2004 05:39:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1885 Billy Bob on the Bard
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1885 Billy Bob on the Bard

And on that note what Shakespearean roles would you cast him in? I think
he'd make a great Anthony: first in Caesar and then A&C with his ex
Angelina Jolie as Cleopatra. He probably would be a damn good Iago too.

Any takers? Hardy is this permissible? We could gather the results and
send them to his agent. I think he was having a poke at the Brits.

Yours,
William S.

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Online Bookstore

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1897  Monday, 18 October 2004

From:           Brooke Morrill <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 15 Oct 2004 08:11:27 -0400
Subject: 15.1880 Online Bookstore
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1880 Online Bookstore

Jerry Zurek writes:

 >"I seem to recall mention within the past year of an excellent
 >Shakespeare bookstore that sells online, perhaps from Canada. I searched
 >the archives but couldn't locate it. I'd appreciate help from anyone who
 >remembers."

I believe you are probably thinking about Poor Yorick, which sells
Shakespearean books and videos/DVDs out of Canada.

http://www.bardcentral.com/

I hope this helps.

Brooke Morrill

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WS Contemporaries on Film

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1898  Monday, 18 October 2004

From:           Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 15 Oct 2004 08:22:31 -0400
Subject: 15.1886 WS Contemporaries on Film
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1886 WS Contemporaries on Film

Hotel is not an adaptation of The Duchess of Malfi. It is a film about
the making of a film adaptation of Webster's play.

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Complete Pelican Shakespeare

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1896  Monday, 18 October 2004

From:           Al Magary <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Sunday, 17 Oct 2004 14:04:21 -0700
Subject:        Complete Pelican Shakespeare

I was stunned to come upon, on the bargain tables at my local big
Borders, a small stack of the brand new _Complete Pelican Shakespeare_
(ISBN 0 14 10.0058 9; Penguin/Viking, 2002), gen.eds. Stephen Orgel and
A.R. Braunmiller, 1754 pp., softcover, for a mere $7.99.  AddAll.com
doesn't have any at that price, so interested purchasers may want to
ring their local Borders and see if it's available.  If for some reason
my San Francisco store uniquely remaindered it, I'd be happy to ship
some around to listmembers, for under $15, with tax, at bookrate.  Email
offlist, please.

Cheers,
Al Magary

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