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The Globes Audience in the Future
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1687  Thursday, 9 September 2004

[1]     From:   Arthur Lindley <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 20:10:21 +0800
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future

[2]     From:   Kathy Dent <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 08 Sep 2004 13:22:59 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future

[3]     From:   D Bloom <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 07:44:25 -0500
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future

[4]     From:   Kate Pearce <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 17:56:23 +0100
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[5]     From:   Brian Willis <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 11:13:48 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future

[6]     From:   Jan Pick <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 19:16:58 +0100
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[7]     From:   Kathy Dent <
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        Date:   Thursday, 09 Sep 2004 00:11:44 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.1656 The Globes Audience in the Future

[8]     From:   John Reed <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 23:06:36 -0700
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From:           Arthur Lindley <
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Date:           Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 20:10:21 +0800
Subject: 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future

I am easily disoriented, but the last time I was in the Globe, my
impression was that the stage faced east.  You enter from the east,
facing the stage with the river on your right; i.e., north.  Gabriel or
someone will, no doubt, re-orient me.  The sun, however, would not be
due south.

Regards,
Arthur Lindley

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From:           Kathy Dent <
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Date:           Wednesday, 08 Sep 2004 13:22:59 +0100
Subject: 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future

Jonathan Hope writes:

 >contrary to popular myth, London is a pretty sunny
 >place, and being in the Globe yard in full sun is not fun.

I'm sorry, but I've spent over thirty years of my life living quite
close to London and there can't be more than ten days in any year when
standing in the full sun would cause any discomfort whatsoever... no
myth, I regret to say.

Kathy Dent

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Date:           Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 07:44:25 -0500
Subject: 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future

John W. Kennedy:

"And let me add, as someone who has played on a Globe-like stage in the
summer, that if it faces south, the sun not only gets in the actors'
eyes, but has a tendency to broil them."

I would say that (1) what with the high wattage of stage lights, actors
better get used to getting broiled or find a new line of work, and (2)
it is a great deal more important for the audience to see the actors
than the actors the audience -- especially their faces

Cheers,
don

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From:           Kate Pearce <
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Date:           Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 17:56:23 +0100
Subject:        The Globes Audience in the Future

In response to the lighting of the Globe's stage, I remember reading
'Rebuilding Shakespeare's Globe' by Andrew Gurr and John Orwell. They
made a point that the whole point of the stage being positioned this
way, was so that it didn't have direct sunlight on the stage. Most
Elizabethans didn't like direct sunlight and nor did the players, so
they wanted a more defused sunlight. It also helped for the effect of
night scenes, when torches and candles could be brought out.

The more I talk to people about the Globe, the more I discover that
people prefer to stand for 3hrs, rather than the comfort of seating. The
first time I went up to London for the day to be a groundling, it was a
boiling hot day. I was standing at the back of the crowd and by the
second hour I was starting to feel quite light headed, and saw more than
one person being stewarded out with a glass of water. I don't think that
you can really position the globe in a way that will keep every audience
member out of the sun, but in those costumes, its surely better that the
actors don't take the direct sunlight?

Having said that though, I saw 'Much Ado.' there last week. Being next
to the stage, as a groundling puts you in the stage's shadow and gives
you the best view, and in comparison to John Reed, I enjoyed the
performance.

Kate.

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Date:           Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 11:13:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future

I had the impression from visiting that wonderful tenement of flats
which sits on top of the original site of the Globe that the stage was
situated on the west side of the theatre. Certainly we know from the
Rose site that the stage was situated on the north side. Is it possible
that this was even an issue? Firstly, they had to acclimate to several
weather issues and deal with outbreaks of plague. I'm not entirely sure
that every outdoor stage was or could be placed in a situation to
protect anyone from the sun (if it appeared) especially in any early
afternoon performance where the sun would be more or less directly overhead.

I think that the people of that time were more used to be outdoors
anyways. It was part of many a workers' trade ("his hide is so tann'd
with his trade that he will hold out water a great while").

Correct me if I'm wrong. Where are Andy Gurr and Reg Foakes when one
needs them?

Brian Willis

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Date:           Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 19:16:58 +0100
Subject: 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1677 The Globes Audience in the Future

Do any serious theatre people still go to the Globe?  Most of the really
keen Shakespeareans I know avoid it like the plague!

Jan

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Date:           Thursday, 09 Sep 2004 00:11:44 +0100
Subject: 15.1656 The Globes Audience in the Future
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.1656 The Globes Audience in the Future

 >I know there is a lot of debate about the accuracy of the various
 >etchings of the Globe in situ, but none of them have the stage facing
 >the river, as it does at the new Globe.

As John Orrell describes in _Shakespeare's Globe Rebuilt_ (Mulryne &
Shewring, p 51-65), a very detailed analysis of Wenceslas Hollar's
picture 'A Long View of London' (1647) revealed the orientation of the
second Globe's stage to be as it now is in the reconstruction.  Orrell
presents his reasons for accepting Hollar's as the most accurate
landscape drawing available and comments: 'Hollar quite clearly placed
the stage roof of the second Globe in the south-west and because of the
drawing's rigorous method it was possible to deduce that the Globe
actually faced somewhere close to 48 degrees east of true north'.
Orrell accepts that his findings about the stage orientation are
'precisely the opposite of what most modern people expect'.

Kathy Dent

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From:           John Reed <
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Date:           Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 23:06:36 -0700
Subject:        Re: The Globes Audience in the Future

Tom Lahey:

I'm so envious you are so positively and profoundly moved by modern
performances of plays written by Shakespeare.  And I'm with you
regarding the movie versions, not only of Hamlet, but of any other play.
  Once a story becomes a movie, then it automatically is comparable to
all other movies, as a movie, and there have been some mighty good ones
appearing from time to time, such as, oh, how about The Bridge on the
River Kwai?  I would say no movie based directly on a play by
Shakespeare (as opposed to something like Forbidden Planet, which  is at
least somewhat comparable to The Tempest) is worth more than three
checks (out of four).   I wish it were otherwise.

I never used to attend concerts much, but now I'm an Altan groupie, and
their live performances are much better than any CD (any CD, not just
their own CDs).

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